Hmmmm.... thinking of strapping on a set of those canned air horns.
Who gets the blame for the heart failures?
Who gets the blame for the heart failures?
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There are communities where people license their electric golf carts and drive them on public roads. Apparently, electric golf carts are not dangerous.
....its something that is happening in most countries because it really does cause a problem.
A pedestrian horn is enough.
As a cyclist, I have a different perspective: I hate that some people feel like they can just walk across a traffic lane if they don't hear something coming. If you step in front of me when I'm pedaling at 25 mph, there's a real chance that we'll both wind up in the hospital. Road bikes behave very predictably, can be seen coming from a good distance away, and don't make sudden turns. but they're quite dangerous if you rely only on your ears. I was hoping EVs would disabuse people of that dangerous habit.
I wonder how long the noisemaker law would last if it applied to all bicycles, too.
In related news, I wish shouting "On your left!" didn't result in people looking over their left shoulder and inadvertently wandering into the traffic lane.
I would have thought a recording that says "Excuse me - Tesla coming past, sorry about the noise, I am only making it due to some daft regulations, otherwise I would be happy to leave you in peace"
I recommend advertising as a sound. Rent your car sound to Staples, or better yet, to your local Shell station, and within no time, the law will be reversed. Just imagine every slow EV shouting out advertising slogans and special offers... .
Combining two ideas upthread, a proposed sound:
"This message is required by law. But now that I have your attention, let me tell you about this incredible Tesla Model S approaching you and how you too could own one..."
Tesla's first advertisements! ;-)
As a cyclist, I have a different perspective: I hate that some people feel like they can just walk across a traffic lane if they don't hear something coming. If you step in front of me when I'm pedaling at 25 mph, there's a real chance that we'll both wind up in the hospital. Road bikes behave very predictably, can be seen coming from a good distance away, and don't make sudden turns. but they're quite dangerous if you rely only on your ears. I was hoping EVs would disabuse people of that dangerous habit.
I wonder how long the noisemaker law would last if it applied to all bicycles, too.
In related news, I wish shouting "On your left!" didn't result in people looking over their left shoulder and inadvertently wandering into the traffic lane.
Hmm, as a cyclist and runner I use my ears a lot to know if a vehicle is sneaking up on me, or pulling out of a blind drive onto the road shoulder where I am traveling. So in that sense it is good to have some level of noise. It really depends on how this is implemented, I haven't seen a decibel level of frequency range discussed yet. But yes if this rule should go into effect it should apply to ICEs as well.
And to everyone complaining about the inattentive pedestrians, please remember that these same inattentive people also drive.
Same thing as having to put "contents are hot" on a to go cup of coffee. "Don't use while bathing" on hairdryers. "Don't put on head" for plastic bags. Honestly, how did some people survive before these laws saved them from these perils?Is this law not designed to protect the stupid? It seems to be aimed at preventing a pedestrian who would blindly walk into traffic from getting run over. Isn't that exactly the kind of person who should get run over according to Darwin? :smile:
Same thing as having to put "contents are hot" on a to go cup of coffee. "Don't use while bathing" on hairdryers. "Don't put on head" for plastic bags. Honestly, how did some people survive before these laws saved them from these perils?
That's what I hate too. If they set a baseline minimum noise level that applies to all cars, I would have no complaints (I would love to see Rolls Royce having to add sound to their cars before they can legally sell it just to be fair). But they chose to only apply to EVs and hybrids.
The report actually readily admits they haven't studied whether quiet ICE are detectable by pedestrians, but they are going to force EVs and hybrids to add noisemakers first anyways.
Is this law not designed to protect the stupid? It seems to be aimed at preventing a pedestrian who would blindly walk into traffic from getting run over. Isn't that exactly the kind of person who should get run over according to Darwin? :smile:
Anyone who has ever been stuck in noisy rush hour traffic in any metro downtown area will know how stupid this law is. You could drive a tank in Manhattan in rush hour and no one would hear it. Ironically if they passed laws to make cars quieter, fewer people in areas with high pedestrian traffic would get killed because they'd actually have a chance of hearing cars coming their way.