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75 days or so and I think there fighting with my lemon law team for buy back now they try to low ball usDropped our car off at Costa Mesa SC yesterday to check the shudder issue.
Let’s see if they can fix it. 2,900 miles on car and everything else with the car is working well.
Love driving the car.
You will get premature tire wear driving on low.1 month old 2020 Model X LR "Raven" on normal 20" wheels:
Suspension on "Standard" = shudder
Suspension on "Low" = no shudder whatsoever
since day 1. Tires (winter or summer) have proven to be irrelevant.
So I simply ride on "low" all the time which is what I prefer anyway as the steering is a bit crisper and tighter than on Standard height. I knew this problem would exist when I bought the car. It was no reason to not upgrade from my S85 to the X.
You will get premature tire wear driving on low.
I'm not who you were asking, but regarding your reasoning, I agree that it is possible and there are vehicles that keep the geometry through different suspension settings. However, I have had more than one service advisor tell me that driving in low does have this effect. In spite of this, my service center insists that they will ONLY align in standard. Also, when I switched to my winter tires last fall, I had measurably more wear on the inside of the rear tires than the outside of them. Maybe they're wrong, but I read today that there is minimal adjustment available to the rear alignment at all. I think I read it in a recent post in this forum, but it's possible I read it on reddit. In either case, that's not really much of a source, but it's the only source I've got.If I start notice uneven wear on the X, I simply get it re-aligned while in Low mode. They will adjust camber and toe-in to suit the new geometry and voila.
The reason I ask you for a reliable source of your statement is that Tesla surely thought of this potential issue when designing an automatic ride-height adjustment system.
My 2006 Audi A8 had a similar speed-governed self-lowering-on-the-autobahn-suspension setup and it never had issues with premature tire wear. I traded that car in with 370km (231k miles). They too designed that into the system. It totally depends on HOW one designs such a system.
Maybe you should re-phrase that question when asking an SC tech.In spite of this, my service center insists that they will ONLY align in standard.
First and foremost, I didn't realize this was the Raven thread, mine is fixed now, as I'm not a Raven. Second, as to "rephrasing the question," while I didn't use assertive language, I did escalate via the web submission form explaining that I wanted aligned in low because of this issue but my service center said they could only align in standard per "corporate policy." The response I got was "we have to defer to the service center on this."Maybe you should re-phrase that question when asking an SC tech.
What I would do is tell (which technically is not "asking") the SC tech the following: YOU (Tesla) made a design mistake, forcing ME to have to drive in Low mode all the time to avoid damage. So YOU (Tesla) will do whatever it takes to not cause other problems such as incorrect tire-wear due to always driving in, essentially, a unfavourable geometry. So YOU (Tesla) will re-align the car in Low mode to avoid this from happening.
Only after Tesla provides a satisfying solution for the shudder problem, will I start using "Standard Mode" again and THEN you can re-align the car in Standard Mode.
My Model S has been in "permanent low mode" for 5.5 years and 220'000km and the tires where always fine. I have not asked them to re-align in low mode all those years (essentially once a year during it's annual service). They re-aligned but I don't know in what mode to be honest.
The 2014 Model S is not the Model X Raven (different suspension) but I have difficulty believing that low-mode on a Raven X would cause tire issues. But it does make me wonder why some SC techs tell people that low mode can cause tire issues though.
I will keep an eye on my tires and if they do wear unevenly, chime in. I'm not afraid to admit i'm wrong
but my service center said they could only align in standard per "corporate policy." The response I got was "we have to defer to the service center on this."