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So… Highland is out…
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I'm actually looking forward to the challenge of learning to use the new controls - a bit like how I enjoy having to think about my gear changes in my old 911 that has a dogleg change for 1st gear. We'll see though. Car arrives in early Feb.
HenryT
Active Member
I think I've seen that the 'stalkless' setup anticipates what you will be doing next in a manoeuvre and chooses the gear (d/r) accordingly? If that is the case, I would hope that as soon as you stop reversing it will switch to forwards using witchcraft? Obviously, you will still need to check but the reversing camera going off should give that away.
I guess we'll have to wait and see how the side by side autotests do, 'stalked v stalkless'?
This is something I'm definitely going to deactivate the second I step inside the vehicle. No way I'm letting AI decide what gear to put the car in - it doesn't know whether I'm trying to adjust my position by going forward, or inch closer backwards if I'm parking. Recipe for disaster.
Oxid8ter
Returning Member
From what I understand it only does it on the initial entry to the car, and it has to be obvious e.g there is a car/wall behind you but not in front of you.
If it's only on entry then I don't see much value in it anyway. Saves me one swipe.
I'll give the slider a try because I want to believe Tesla tried it out with focus groups, but worst case enhauto will have one more customer.
Even with a wall in front of you it can still select drive instead of reverse. Admittedly I think this option is still in beta, but it does seem very risky. I think the lack of a front bumper camera (pictured on the initial press release photos) doesn't help... See 8m 18s in this video...
Zilla91
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Dougall1248
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What an incredible hulabaloo about buttons for indicators. When I passed my test in 1965 you had to do hand signals. I'm sure I'll manage the buttons.
There's no way it costs £500 on the BOM to have stalks. And they managed to include them previously. Even Dacia can find the money to put stalks in their budget cars.
I think we are talking about very small amounts actually. I also don’t think Tesla did it to save cost, I think Tesla did it because they are Tesla. Just like they didn’t invent the Yoke to save on the costs of the missing part of the wheel.Most certainly not but adding something to the BOM itself incurs costs besides inventory and we are not talking small amounts here for sure
If you look at highland, there’s lots there that could have increased cost and not reduced it. Rear screen, ambient lighting, better suspension, more sound proofing and so on. The steering wheel change I think has nothing to do with cost, just Tesla / Elon thinking they can invent a better way of doing this.
Things that you see and feel and not what you dont at an educated guess if I was into marketing.
Ive only worked in the supply chain for certainly less money turnover than Tesla to understand about BOM's and how they work
One could make an argument that if they removed the Autopilot features from the right stalk, to relocate them to the wheel, the car would look seriously janky with a single left stalk, so removing one effectively necessitates removing the other.
My answer to that is simply - don't bother removing either stalk.
Zilla91
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But the autopilot stalk is also the gear selector so moving that specific functionality wouldn't have needed the stalk to be removed...
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