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Software Update 2018.21.9 75bdbc11
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Joe F
Disruption is hard.
The problem with “I want to drive a Tesla the same way I’ve always driven” is, it’s not the same kind of car you’ve always driven. Steadfastly holding on to the past is a recipe for personal failure and disappointment.
Keeping both hands on the wheel is not difficult, just don’t apply the same amount of grip with both hands, but still have the loose hand ready to tighten on the wheel as necessary.
After 50 years of driving, it did not take long at all to adapt to how the feature worked. Living in the past without adapting to the future is a cop out, IMHO.
Keeping both hands on the wheel is not difficult, just don’t apply the same amount of grip with both hands, but still have the loose hand ready to tighten on the wheel as necessary.
After 50 years of driving, it did not take long at all to adapt to how the feature worked. Living in the past without adapting to the future is a cop out, IMHO.
I have had the new version for a few days and haven’t notice any difference in the “nag” rate on my AP1 car. I find that driving with my hand on the bottom of the steering wheel gets me more “nags” than holding the side since I am applying less resistance at the bottom, but again no major change in rate.
I have noticed AP slowing more often, will need more testing, but not sure people are right when they say this update didn’t affect AP1 cars for interstate interchanges and curves.
Ruffles
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Everyone in this thread is wrapped up with AP but what about the reference to the mobile connector? Is this the ChaDeMo adapter? If I charge with it, when it's done, will it deploy some firmware upgrade to it and then notify me?
I drove quite a bit with the new update today and got 0 nags on Autopilot. I keep my hands on the wheel the whole time at 10 and 2 (clock position).
Thanks for the vid, this is really interesting, it looks like Tesla has found a way to improve the hands on wheel detection.
Yep 45 years driving here.
No issues figuring out how to hold a steering wheel or how to look to the right for speed display.
Also no problem adjusting to instant acceleration or regen braking.
Maybe we should have a faint stink of gasoline injected into the cabin to make it feel like it used to in the “good old days” ?
What’s funny is that AP isn’t 50 years old so difficult to use the learned behavior justification for not changing anything.
Yes, my car went from 74>70>65>60>55>60>70>74 when switch from one highway to another. On another one, the car took a sharp turn from 70>30 at a sharp exit, it then dropped further to 25mph at a short shoot before trying to plow through the T intersection at 25mph
As I said before, I just didn't like how the car doesn't tell you they dropped the speed for you. I wish they would change the speed indicator to orange or something to show an override is happening.I have an AP2.5 X car, the hold onto steering wheel comes at 30 secs on highway travel. You can defeat that by basically resting your hand on the wheel. I push my thumb at the steering wheel and it can defeat it, it was way more sensitive than before. No problem with plowing into another lane, just the same usual good and the bad. In the 18 release, the car had the stopped car roulette problem, it feels much better on 21.
I felt it had always done that. Back in last winter, when the heater and battery hameater is both on, I get a bit of orange even when completely stopped. Try turning your heaters to full blast, all seat heater and defrosters on. You should see a small orange arch even when stopped.
Pretty sure when the feature released, the nag time was what... 30 minutes? You really think Elon allowed a 30 minute nag timer without secretly intending people to drive with their hands off the wheel? That's exactly why it was up to 30 minutes. Dumb ****s abused it and now we're more restricted than ever. Driving hands off is not the issue - I've done it for thousands of miles. Taking your eyes off the road is what gets you (& others) killed. Short of a split-second reaction situation, hands resting on the steering wheel or in my lap makes no difference. If the road conditions become less than ideal, then you should obviously put your hands on the wheel to be prepared to immediately take over, or just take over. Hands in the lap while cruising down a straight open highway while paying attention is not a safety hazard.
It's not the CHAdeMO adapter. The Mobile Connector aka Universal Mobile Connector aka UMC is the device that comes with the car. The release note first appeared a couple versions ago. If you read release notes for 2018.18, you'll see some images where people showed their UMC was updated after the car firmware was updated. It takes a couple of minutes and then the message goes away.
hmmm
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Someone is fishing for 'likes" and "loves" here
jk, but you got my "like" regardless.
Funny you should think that.Someone is fishing for 'likes" and "loves" here
Wasn’t fishing. Felt more like jumping into shark infested waters based on the amount of complaints about nags in this thread. I was really expecting the opposite reaction. Pleasantly surprised.
hmmm
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I was totally kidding. Glad someone brought some common sense to an always "passionate" topic.
Uncle Paul
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I just saw the post where someone was giving advice on how to game the autopilot system so he will not need to keep a hand on the wheel. Believe this is what is leading to Autopilot needing to implement more agressive hands on protocols.
No problem passing on an update, but sooner or later you are going to want to get with the program,
We sometimes are our own worst enemy.
No problem passing on an update, but sooner or later you are going to want to get with the program,
We sometimes are our own worst enemy.
Maybe not entirely relevant, but you were already supposed to have changed your hand positions on the wheel. 10 and 2 are no longer correct since the advent of the airbag. That's why there are those nice grips built into the wheel at 9 and 3.
When I'm driving, I have two hands on the wheel. When I'm supervising the car's driving, I have one hand on the side of the wheel, toward the bottom, exerting just the hand and forearm weight for torque on the wheel. Never any nags.
As an Old Dog myself, I know it is possible to learn new tricks.
I personally use four oranges spaced and tied onto the wheel, whilst balancing a metronome at the 12 o'clock position, used for oscillating pressure. No nags, just a hell of a lot of citrus and exceptional rhythm.
Moderator note: merged a couple of posts from another thread in an attempt to keep discussion for this firmware version together.
Bruce.
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