It makes no sense to me that utilities want to complain about distributed generation, yet they (or the ISOs) are not making any effort to put hard numbers on the problem.
Just to make sure you're not talking passed each other, I think @miimura is talking about the concern we often here about distributed resources straining system operations; but if they aren't measured, how do they know? @Ampster, I think you're going to the point about utilities disliking distributed resources because they can't earn a return on them, while they do on utility-owned generation and the associated transmission assets. Both are fair, but separate, points.My theory on that is that their business revenue model was based on ROI (assets). There has never been any incentive to control costs or understand them. As a solar owner I don't mind paying my share of distribution costs if I could trust the utilities to fairly state their costs.
I would also like to see hard numbers.
Re @Ampster's "fairly state their costs," this is a really complicated issue. Utilities already have an army of internal, external, and state auditors looking at their books, so I think it's safe to say that the numbers used in rate case are "hard". What's squishy is the allocation among rate classes and line items with in a rate. E.g., should all transmission costs be treated as fixed, because in the short run nothing changes by using them more, or variable, because heavily used lines will eventually be upgraded to handle the extra flow? Even if the costs are considered fix, what specific metric should be used to allocate to residential, commercial, industrial, and municipal customers? There are a lot of precedents for answering these questions, but nothing that is obviously "right".