Hello,
It’s been a while since I’ve been on the forums. I was able to trade in my leased Forester without penalty back to Subaru and purchased (financed) a 2021 Outback XT. Great car, but disposable in the sense that I am only looking to get 10 years out of it because of the mechanicals: turbo engine typically has less reliability than a naturally aspirated engine, CVT reliability is a little scattered, especially for the “high torque” variant in this car, and gas mileage is pretty lousy. 18 mpg means I’ll pay between $2000-2500 for gas this year compared to a conservative estimate of around $600-700 for electricity for the same driving.
I don’t off-road. I drive a mix of city and highway depending on traffic and time of year. Work does not have chargers but I have a V3 Super within 5 miles of work that I could use on my lunch hour as needed. I work in person - no telecommuting here.
Commute through option 1 is about 50% 55mph highway and 50% heavy urban city with traffic and lights. 10 miles each way. Takes about 25-30 minutes normally.
Commute option 2 is 90% 65mph toll highway and the rest is my suburban commute to the highway. About 17 miles each way. Tolls cost about $2.50 each way.
Aside from work with the kids playing sports I’m usually good for around another 30-50 mile per week total with all their stuff. Errands are close.
In summer is my concern: coming from shore areas I will be commuting to work about 60 miles each way on 65 mph toll highway. I may or may not have access to charging overnight. On this route I have a V2 Supercharger at about 20 miles north of destination, and then again in about another 30-40 mile I have the V3 adjacent to work that I could use.
Trying to figure out what I can expect for watt hours per mile, especially in the longer summer trips. I don’t go to the shore often in winter so the range loss to heating is not a concern. I will typically drive around posted speed plus 5, for efficiency/fuel economy.
Here is the heart of my question:
244 miles of range.
Keeping it in the Goldilocks zone of 20-80% SOC, that gives me about 146.6 miles of range (244x60%)
When degradation kicks in, which I’ll estimate at 10% a few years down the road, that would be a loss of 24 miles off the top. That brings it to 220, x60%, would be 132 miles. Not enough to go to the shore, then back to work, without charging.
Now I recognize that I can mitigate this by charging at either destination. Shore at best would be 120V15A charging. Not my house - think rental.
But, the thing is, is that 244 factored in at a 333 Watts per mile figure or something else, and how does that compare to what actual drivers are getting?
I would not want to freeze myself out in the summer but I am thinking air set to 67-68 would probably be ideal. I would be willing to concede to 70 if it greatly improved range.
ABRP is still a beta figure for the SR so I thought I’d ask here.
thanks!
(Outside NYC area. We get snow but I would either do winters or put all weathers on there like the CrossClimate)
It’s been a while since I’ve been on the forums. I was able to trade in my leased Forester without penalty back to Subaru and purchased (financed) a 2021 Outback XT. Great car, but disposable in the sense that I am only looking to get 10 years out of it because of the mechanicals: turbo engine typically has less reliability than a naturally aspirated engine, CVT reliability is a little scattered, especially for the “high torque” variant in this car, and gas mileage is pretty lousy. 18 mpg means I’ll pay between $2000-2500 for gas this year compared to a conservative estimate of around $600-700 for electricity for the same driving.
I don’t off-road. I drive a mix of city and highway depending on traffic and time of year. Work does not have chargers but I have a V3 Super within 5 miles of work that I could use on my lunch hour as needed. I work in person - no telecommuting here.
Commute through option 1 is about 50% 55mph highway and 50% heavy urban city with traffic and lights. 10 miles each way. Takes about 25-30 minutes normally.
Commute option 2 is 90% 65mph toll highway and the rest is my suburban commute to the highway. About 17 miles each way. Tolls cost about $2.50 each way.
Aside from work with the kids playing sports I’m usually good for around another 30-50 mile per week total with all their stuff. Errands are close.
In summer is my concern: coming from shore areas I will be commuting to work about 60 miles each way on 65 mph toll highway. I may or may not have access to charging overnight. On this route I have a V2 Supercharger at about 20 miles north of destination, and then again in about another 30-40 mile I have the V3 adjacent to work that I could use.
Trying to figure out what I can expect for watt hours per mile, especially in the longer summer trips. I don’t go to the shore often in winter so the range loss to heating is not a concern. I will typically drive around posted speed plus 5, for efficiency/fuel economy.
Here is the heart of my question:
244 miles of range.
Keeping it in the Goldilocks zone of 20-80% SOC, that gives me about 146.6 miles of range (244x60%)
When degradation kicks in, which I’ll estimate at 10% a few years down the road, that would be a loss of 24 miles off the top. That brings it to 220, x60%, would be 132 miles. Not enough to go to the shore, then back to work, without charging.
Now I recognize that I can mitigate this by charging at either destination. Shore at best would be 120V15A charging. Not my house - think rental.
But, the thing is, is that 244 factored in at a 333 Watts per mile figure or something else, and how does that compare to what actual drivers are getting?
I would not want to freeze myself out in the summer but I am thinking air set to 67-68 would probably be ideal. I would be willing to concede to 70 if it greatly improved range.
ABRP is still a beta figure for the SR so I thought I’d ask here.
thanks!
(Outside NYC area. We get snow but I would either do winters or put all weathers on there like the CrossClimate)