Isn't the Reserve controlled by the App? Does the app function differently in the NE versus CA?
for people in the east coast enrolled in these programs receive compensation, but the reserve is overridden during these events.
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Isn't the Reserve controlled by the App? Does the app function differently in the NE versus CA?
When in grid services mode in the NE, the configured reserve is ignored. This is because it's a compensated program. It is a completely separate program from the California program, even though both are called VPPs. See Tesla's description of the NE program here: ConnectedSolutions | TeslaIsn't the Reserve controlled by the App? Does the app function differently in the NE versus CA?
Correct. I was talking about VPP as it applies to me, where there is compensation. I am in MA. If there wasn't compensation, then I wouldn't be part of the VPP.The main thing I would point out is that some people might mistakenly get the impression that the issue the OP experienced would also apply to the California VPP. That is not the case since the California VPP allows contributors to set a backup reserve and opt out at any time. The Northeast VPPs offer compensation in exchange for the lack of this flexibility,
I don't think your statement is correct. I'm in this program and when I set my reserve to 25% the discharge to grid stopped at 25%.The program they are in out there over rides the backup reserve setting, so that part doesnt matter.
If I had such track record I would probably reconsidered participation in ConnectedSolutions. When I lived in Wayland we were affected multiple times per year, it was very annoying.In the 8 months we've had the PWs, we've had 12 actual outages. I'm really beginning to think VPP isn't compatible with my needs.
Im only going by what other people who are in the program have specifically stated, like this OP and @jhn_ . Both those members state it over rides the setting (you can see the quote in post #6 in this thread from @jhn_ , and this OP also experienced it).I don't think your statement is correct. I'm in this program and when I set my reserve to 25% the discharge to grid stopped at 25%.
If I had such track record I would probably reconsidered participation in ConnectedSolutions. When I lived in Wayland we were affected multiple times per year, it was very annoying.
@jjrandorin is correct. Tesla can/will override the reserve down to a max of 20% during an event for this “Connected Solutions” VPP in New England. It’s on their webpage and in the contract docs.I don't think your statement is correct. I'm in this program and when I set my reserve to 25% the discharge to grid stopped at 25%.
That is my experience as well. Connected Solutions event ignores reserve setting. Yesterday graph to support it. I have 3 PWs and reserve set at 40%. PWs sent 30.7KWh to the grid between 4PM and 7PM.@solarAddict That is not the case. Tesla can discharge them down to 20% regardless of what you have you reserve set to. I’ve posted links to the documentation from Tesla saying so earlier in this thread.
I think your few stat points are still just coincidence. And 5% is very tight margin to call it. Try setting your reserve to something like 50% next time. And if it does stop at 50% during an event consider yourself lucky that Tesla messed up the config on your powerwalls to let your reserve be the final word.
During Connected Solution events, including yesterday, my powerwalls are always drained below reserve I’ve set at 33%. But they don’t always go as low as the 20% Tesla can take them to. Yesterday they took them to 25% in the same time frame as your event.
I might try to set reserve higher next time. But I would not call it coincidence because a day before I had a reserve set to 20% and PW were discharged to 20%.@solarAddict That is not the case. Tesla can discharge them down to 20% regardless of what you have you reserve set to. I’ve posted links to the documentation from Tesla saying so earlier in this thread.
I think your few stat points are still just coincidence. And 5% is very tight margin to call it. Try setting your reserve to something like 50% next time. And if it does stop at 50% during an event consider yourself lucky that Tesla messed up the config on your powerwalls to let your reserve be the final word.
During Connected Solution events, including yesterday, my powerwalls are always drained below reserve I’ve set at 33%. But they don’t always go as low as the 20% Tesla can take them to. Yesterday they took them to 25% in the same time frame as your event.
I would agree that 5% difference too close for testing, particularly since Tesla has two sets of numbers, and 25% on the API is about 21% on the app. So, depending on which number a customer is looking at and which number Tesla is talking about, they potentially could be the same thing. (And Tesla has definitely been inconsistent in the past about whether the percentages they reference are true/API numbers or the customer/app percentages.)@solarAddict That is not the case. Tesla can discharge them down to 20% regardless of what you have you reserve set to. I’ve posted links to the documentation from Tesla saying so earlier in this thread.
I think your few stat points are still just coincidence. And 5% is very tight margin to call it. Try setting your reserve to something like 50% next time. And if it does stop at 50% during an event consider yourself lucky that Tesla messed up the config on your powerwalls to let your reserve be the final word.
During Connected Solution events, including yesterday, my powerwalls are always drained below reserve I’ve set at 33%. But they don’t always go as low as the 20% Tesla can take them to. Yesterday they took them to 25% in the same time frame as your event.
Update.
You guys were correct. At least today![]()
I set the reserve to 31% today and it was mercilessly ignored, discharge stopped at 21%. So for those who affected by frequent power outages the participation in Connected Solutions is probably not recommended.
Or just buy lots of Powerwalls, 20% of 5 Powerwalls is still 13.5kwh for backup.![]()
Yeah could flip the switch or the breaker for one or more Powerwall. Might draw some attention at Tesla as it would look like a bad powerwall from their side of things controlling the VPP.Is it possible to flip the switch on the powerwall if you are expecting storm to stop it from exporting?
Yeah could flip the switch or the breaker for one or more Powerwall. Might draw some attention at Tesla as it would look like a bad powerwall from their side of things controlling the VPP.
Might as well not participate in the VPP though too as cutting out a Powerwall would bring down your average of continuous kw exported which is how they pay us Powerwall owners in the Connect Solutions VPP.
The answer seems to be the same as the answer to when does Tesla Storm Watch kick in, which Tesla describes here. In short, Tesla decides, but the decision seems to be automated and based on certain NWS warnings being active for your location. While Tesla does not explicitly document the list of warnings, a notable exclusion as reported by multiple users on this forum is Severe Thunderstorm Warnings - these seem to not trigger Storm Watch and therefore also do not seem to suspend draining of the batteries during planned events.I just ordered a system (12.24 kW Solar Panels, 2 Powerwalls) and live in part of Connecticut (Eversource) that can participate in the program, so I've been following this discussion with interest. One question I have is about how it is disabled for storms. What determines that there is a storm that qualifies for not using your power? The National Weather Service, when they issue an advisory or warning? Many such warnings I see cover many counties over many hours. Or an actual storm in my immediate area? The NWS doesn't get very local in my experience, but I have an app on my iPhone (Dark Sky) that is highly localized. Who decides? Or, more accurately I am sure, what system decides? Has there been a disconnect between expectations and reality regarding such storms?
Thanks!