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Supercharger - Las Vegas, NV - Arroyo Crossing Parkway

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Permit posted by marco on Twitter. 48 stalls coming to Spring Valley/Las Vegas. @bmah @Chuq @Big Earl ^^^^
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Surely this has to be a typo or something, as that's about the dumbest possible place to drop 48 stalls.
Why? Lot's of Tesla here in Vegas and the southwest side of town is $$$. Also, it might help get all these damn Uber Tesla's off the normal peoples charge sites who charge to 100% (fml NW side of town until the other site opens).

Also the S. Fort Apache location hasn't moved in ages so it could've been nixed... Supercharger - Trop & Fort Apache, Las Vegas (SW Vegas), NV




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Land in Nevada is about as cheap as it comes, such that:

1) It's damn near illegal to build housing without off street parking (ie, locals charge at home)
2a) Non locals are probably passing through or making a beeline to/from casino land
2b) it's a 15-20 minute detour off of I15 for said non-locals
3) Building/digging/etc in the desert is (generally) super easy, such that you really don't get any serious economies of scale for building a large site.
 
This is a good hub for the SW side of town. Hopefully it has the solar cover to keep all those vehicles cool in the summer.

Tesla has the telemetry about who is charging where in town. Right now the only SC for the entire SW part of town (south of 215/west of I-15) is Town Square. If they build a huge SC and draw away all the locals from TS, they can reclaim TS for the tourists.
 
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We don't complain about new superchargers around here, certainly not about new LARGE superchargers :cool:
I prefer more geographic diversity for convenience and less susceptibility to localized power outages. We don't need to hit gas station level density, as home charging is what needs to be the norm, but diverting 10+ km to hit a charging station is dumb, especially if you scale it up to something like a quarter million Tesla's doing it every day.
 
I prefer more geographic diversity for convenience and less susceptibility to localized power outages. We don't need to hit gas station level density, as home charging is what needs to be the norm, but diverting 10+ km to hit a charging station is dumb, especially if you scale it up to something like a quarter million Tesla's doing it every day.
I think you are being a little self-centered here in thinking that only through traffic would be using this supercharger. In fact, I doubt many Teslas would be diverting 6+ miles to use it. Why would they? There are already other superchargers along I-15.
 
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I was more speaking in general about less stalls per location in favor of more locations. Even if you assume this is just for locals, it still encourages bad behavior in the form of people relying exclusively on supercharging, rather than installing something as cheap and simple as a 6-20R.
 
I was more speaking in general about less stalls per location in favor of more locations. Even if you assume this is just for locals, it still encourages bad behavior in the form of people relying exclusively on supercharging, rather than installing something as cheap and simple as a 6-20R.
There are just so many Teslas that drive up from SoCal (and other locations) that stay in all different parts of Vegas. Even if you think every Tesla owner should live in a house with a garage with a charging setup in their garage, there would still be a lot of use for a supercharger here. And of course apartment dwellers may also get a lot of use out of it as well.
 
48 stalls in the middle of a large shopping center makes sense to me. The desert is home to massive solar production that increases with each passing year. It makes a lot of sense to offer fast charging at destinations, during daytime hours when solar production is high. This gives people the option of charging at home or charging at their destination, rather than being forced to charge at home or clog the highway superchargers that are serving travelers. This also makes it easier on the utilities, who can provide one large service feed for the superchargers rather than upgrading the feeds for every housing development in the area (they'll probably have to upgrade anyway, but this reduces the immediate pressure).
 
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In summer the total installed solar probably barely covers residential aircon, never mind anything else, so you're powering superchargers off natural gas peaker plants for the foreseeable future. Aircon loads drop significantly a few hours after the sun goes down, so all that capacity is freed up for home charging with no need for residential infrastructure upgrades.

Also, that parking lot is almost too big. If they stick the chargers on the east side of the lot, all your frozen goods from Walmart would damn near melt walking back to your car in July.
 
In summer the total installed solar probably barely covers residential aircon, never mind anything else, so you're powering superchargers off natural gas peaker plants for the foreseeable future. Aircon loads drop significantly a few hours after the sun goes down, so all that capacity is freed up for home charging with no need for residential infrastructure upgrades.

Also, that parking lot is almost too big. If they stick the chargers on the east side of the lot, all your frozen goods from Walmart would damn near melt walking back to your car in July.
Thanks for your insight, us locals appreciate it! /s
 
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Update, permit movement. "Commercial Electric" and "Commercial Building" but I think that just means the work? Both are "awaiting plans" but hey-o!

Commercial Electric BD23-24557​

Tesla Arroyo Crossing
The installation of 48 electric vehicle (EV) charging stalls and associated electrical equipment in an existing parking lot at the Arroyo Crossing development.

Commercial Building BD23-24548​

Tesla Arroyo Crossing
The project proposes to install 48 electric vehicle (EV) charging in an existing parking lot at the Arroyo Crossing development in Clark County. The proposed improvements include associated electrical equipment, the location of which has been coordinated with the property owner and NV Energy. The project will propose to maintain as much existing pavement as possible, and the new improvements include adding additional landscaping in parking lot islands. The project will slightly reduce the drive aisle north of the proposed improvements (Arroyo Crossing Parkway) but will remain code compliant for emergency vehicle access.
 
Glad to see a 40+ option going in.

Setting as CA (not familiar with the market / charging dynamics there), NV, particularly LAS, seems the local where demand has most overwhelmed Tesla’s SC supply.

About one a quarter or so I’m through on a road trip and was shocked to see the surge pricing premiums (but not too shocked thanks to FUSC!) as well as the utilization.

 
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