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Supercharger Location Requests

Discussion in 'Charging Standards and Infrastructure' started by dave, May 31, 2013.

  1. dave

    dave Member

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    Is there a process to suggest / request Supercharger locations?

    I'm sure if there was that Tesla would be inundated with people asking for locations, but perhaps they would fine the info useful.

    Personally, I was somewhat disappointed not to see a location between Cincinnati and Indianapolis, and Cincinnati and Columbus on the roadmap. My specific use-case is that these are cities I need to travel to and back on the same day on a weekly basis and it is JUST out of range of my P85. It is really annoying not to be able to make these day trips in my new car, and I was hoping for a Supercharger along those routes at some point. It's gonna stink if that never happens.

    - Dave
     
  2. Lightning Jeff

    Lightning Jeff Model S #4214

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    On the Supercharger page:

     
  3. dave

    dave Member

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    That links seems to be for business / property owners that want to offer their location.
     
  4. Lightning Jeff

    Lightning Jeff Model S #4214

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    Oh, I don't know. What about "Influential Citizen"? Or "Other"? But it does stand to reason that contacts from people with some authority, access or pull will be more useful than a pile of messages saying, "I want one near me." That much, they already know.
     
  5. ZBB

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    I went ahead and submitted one anyway -- just picked "other" and in business name I put "Model S owner" (cheating by a couple days -- delivery isn't until Wed...)

    The request was for one in Flagstaff, AZ -- which is conspicuously absent from the new map (even in 2015...). It makes a bunch of sense for multiple reasons:
    • There is a nearly 6,000 foot elevation increase from Phoenix to Flagstaff. Combined with summer temps over 105 in Phoenix (dropping to ~90 by Flagstaff -- but well over 100 for 2/3 of the trip), that puts Flagstaff near the edge of a 60 kWh range -- even though its only ~140 miles away...
    • Flagstaff is ~140 miles east of Kingman, where the map does show a SC spot -- so Flagstaff opens up E-W traffic on I-40. Flagstaff is also ~4,000 feet higher than Kingman, so east-bound traffic will also have to deal with elevation range loss.
    • Flagstaff is ~78 miles to the Grand Canyon -- so a SC in Flagstaff opens up a major National Park. There's also skiing in Flagstaff and the cooler summer temps make it a great place for us Phoenicians to go to get a bit of relief from the summer heat...
     
  6. Cheerose

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    Not to mention Route 66... :D
     
  7. jeffro01

    jeffro01 Active Member

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    Yeah I thought as well not having one in Flagstaff was an odd omission. I really don't see how you get across the state in one charge or am I missing something?

    Jeff
     
  8. bollar

    bollar Disgruntled Member

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    I wonder if Flagstaff's dot is not just misplaced. There is a dot in the Sitgreaves National Forest between Payson & Show Low and that seems incongruous with the surrounding dots.
     
  9. ZBB

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    Possible. There's not much between Payson and Show Low -- other than the Mogollon Rim, which is a ~2000 ft climb. The town by the dot is called Heber, but its very small -- although it would be nearly ideal heading out of Phoenix to eastern AZ -- its ~140 miles from my house and 4,000 feet higher...

    The other odd thing in AZ is the I-8 corridor from El Centro, CA to Casa Grande, AZ -- where they show 4 dots over 240 miles. Its almost like they took a bunch of different starting points -- San Diego, Tucson, and Phoenix and decided they needed SC's x miles from the start point...
     
  10. Robert.Boston

    Robert.Boston Model S VIN P01536

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    Don't put too much weight on the particular location a dot. The original map showed a supercharger in Connecticut somewhere 50 or 60 miles east of New Haven. In the end, they installed chargers a little bit west of New Haven. It is worthwhile, however, letting Tesla know where their prospective sites differ from where you, as real-life drivers, need them to be.
     
  11. Russell B

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    Elon noted that Gilroy is one of the two busiest. Why? The location is right on a major commute route. Instead of owners charging at home they stop and top-off thus clogging the site for travelers. That defeats the whole purpose of superchargers to allow owners to travel unimpeded. Pulling in to Gilroy fully jammed with three or four waiting, most of whom live in the area is really frustrating when I'm on an LA to SF trip.
     
  12. SFOTurtle

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    They are adding more bays to Gilroy, just don't know when. I wasn't aware that it was a major problem other than on weekends. How many folks living in Gilroy own Teslas and use the SC before going to work every day?
     
  13. brianman

    brianman Burrito Founder

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    I know it's a bit of a dark perspective but...

    When people were worried about supercharging causing battery degradation, I'm pretty sure they didn't abuse them instead of charging at home.
     
  14. jeff_adams

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    I wouldn't be surprised if there aren't a fair amount commuting from Los Banos, Hollister, Salinas and the Monterey Peninsula. The MS is a great commuter car.
     
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    I do believe the problem is on weekends, not weekdays. Also, I don't know anybody who would willingly add even 15 minutes to their commute on a daily basis. The problem with Gilroy is people shopping at the outlet mall.
     
  16. wraithnot

    wraithnot Model S VIN #5785

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    I stopped off at Gilroy on a Friday afternoon in late March and at one point there were six MS's there: Paso Robles road trip- our first multi-day EV experience so it's not just a weekend issue. I've made a total of six stops at Gilroy and I've noticed that a lot of people using the Gilroy superchargers are either on their way home from a factory pickup or were testing out supercharging prior to an actual road trip. If my anecdotal observations about much of the traffic coming from new owners are correct, a few more bays should fix the problem (at least until they add another shift at the factory and increase output).
     
  17. neroden

    neroden Happy Model S Owner

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    I'm going to repeat the Erie, PA request. :wink: I find it hard to believe it's not on the current 2015 map, but it's not.
     
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    We desperately need one in Scranton, PA and/or Binghimton, NY!
     
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    How about West Virginia, its a waste land! Wheeling is Pittsburgh. Its a long vertical state
     
  20. Cottonwood

    Cottonwood Roadster#433, Model S#S37

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    There is already a Supercharger in Triadelphia, WV.
     

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