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Did the Panera just move away from this plaza?
Now, if the leaked future SC list is to be believed, the next Oak Brook SC location would be in the lot at the north-west corner of 56 and Meyers Road. There are plenty of restaurants there, but no Panera.
Thread 'Chicago area superchargers failing in cold' Chicago area superchargers failing in coldI'm in California but YouTube describes a terrible scene with many cars stranded at the (broken) station. What's going on?
The way ABC 7 reports it is very misleading. Oh that’s right. ABC is owned by Disney.I'm in California but YouTube describes a terrible scene with many cars stranded at the (broken) station. What's going on?
Another example the mainstream media wants Tesla dead. The batteries don’t just “die” in cold weather. If that’s the case, Tesla would have failed in Norway already.
I see a lot of these Teslas on TV are Model 3s with fleet plates which means they’re Hertz rentals. A lot of renters don’t know what they’re dealing with and expect to get 240 miles out of the pack if the screen reads 240 miles. And I mean doesn’t the nav tell them the SC is down? Did they even use the nav before driving there?
The way ABC 7 reports it is very misleading. Oh that’s right. ABC is owned by Disney.
TBH, at the beginning of it, it all looked very suspicious to me too. But in the end, most of the root causes are pretty "nerd level 9000" type things. I can't blame the media for not taking that angle. So far, the coverage has been decent overall.Oh please. Enough with the conspiracy mongering.
This IS a very valid story to be reporting on and it's interesting to the general public. And to paraphrase Hanlon, never ascribe to malice that which can be adequately explained by ignorance. These reporters are not immersed in EV knowledge or terminology like we are.
I agree with @jsmay311 that this cold weather issue for EVs is valid and needs to be addressed.The way ABC 7 reports it is very misleading. Oh that’s right. ABC is owned by Disney.
The cause has been known for a while. It's lazy, inconsiderate or incompetent drivers that throw or drop the plugs in the snow after charging. The warm plug melts the snow that goes inside the plug. Due to the extreme cold melted snow will flash freeze in the plug and now you have a charger out of service. You see this at busy stations where the chances of idiots increases. We can't have nice things if we have a population of imbeciles!Hopefully at some point the cause comes out. Whether it's a problem on Tesla's end or someone controlling the grid shutting down or limiting power to them.
See my reply above about why the specific plugs went out of service. it's not about winterizing, it's about an idiot population. Your example of the person with 30% who drove to another supercharger and probably passed 30 level 2 chargers along the way is another example of an Idiot.I agree with @jsmay311 that this cold weather issue for EVs is valid and needs to be addressed.
If you look up your Tesla app, there's an uptick of out-of-order Superchargers in the area. In this case, it's the entire Oak Brook shutdown by Tesla. Indeed, Norway in the Arctic region works well, but I guess it takes more work to winterize your Tesla Superchargers. Tesla needs to beef up its maintenance crew in winter, and resetting the stations from the comfort of a warm office won't cut it.
Due to multiple out-of-order stations, the wait is longer. Someone arrived with a 30% charge in another station but gave up and left for another one but couldn't make it because the range in winter is not the same as in summer and had to be towed. Thus, in this case, range is an issue that Tesla is in denial "There are essentially zero trips above 400 miles where the driver doesn’t need to stop for restroom, food, coffee, etc. anyway.”
This kind of problem is not good for professional rideshare drivers either.
If we want to wean people off from petroleum, we need to address the cold winter issue.
It's solvable, but it costs more effort: Winterization, maintenance crew, longer-range cars, and more chargers (Tesla can bring portable Superchargers to these special events).
It sounds like there's an issue in the cold weather that's not the problem in summer, so these reporters didn't invent the issues.See my reply above about why the specific plugs went out of service. it's not about winterizing, it's about an idiot population. Your example of the person with 30% who drove to another supercharger and probably passed 30 level 2 chargers along the way is another example of an Idiot.
Finally the ONLY reason Tesla shut down the chargers on the app was to dissuade people from coming to the chargers so that they could clear the backlog of dead Teslas. They were able to get the chargers to work quickly by heating the plugs to clear the ice inside them.
The fact of the matter is the Idiocracy that is the tesla Uber Hertz driver is the problem and I had a good time laughing at these morons over the past couple days
It sounds like there's an issue in the cold weather that's not the problem in summer, so these reporters didn't invent the issues.
There's a solution for icing plugs: Winterizing them. V3 and V4 have thermoregulated cables.
Shutting down is the wrong thing to do. Tesla has been known to bring in additional portable Superchargers in busy locations.
It's better to solve problems rather than blaming drivers.