juliusa
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There are some with batteries. I don't believe Tesla has ever stated why.Just for my own edification are there any known supercharger installations that have battery packs to lower demand charging fees?
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There are some with batteries. I don't believe Tesla has ever stated why.Just for my own edification are there any known supercharger installations that have battery packs to lower demand charging fees?
Seems like they should start having time of use rates at superchargers. That way people who use them for their primary charging can use them at a lower rate when electricity is cheaper.
That doesn't lower Tesla's costs though. Having people charge when electricity is cheaper will.No. Have a radius from your register addressand how many times you visit a charging station in a month. That shows if you’re using a station for primary charging. Those who use it as a long distance travel should pay less!
I had a 2012 Volt until I got my Model S in 2015. loved that car. but I was READY to trade up when my volt lease was up. BTW one of my quotes of your post is missing. I hit dislike in your post b/c of your "never go to a gas station again: say hello to Idle fees comments.
now idle fees bother me also... but they are necessary. there is just too much supercharger congestion. perhaps the rising princes will help curtail this.. as someone who doesn't have home charging, I have had to deal with a tremendous amount of Destination Charge congestion over the past 3 years (and even when I had my Volt, the ChargePoint EVSE I was using was often occupied) so I know SCing congestion was bound to start being a problem. There are too many cars, and not enough superchargers.. you have to incentivize people to move their cars once they are done charging.. particularly if there are other cars waiting to charge... that's how scarce resources are shared. not everyone is happy all of the time, but most people are happy most of the time. it is the best we can do.
I disagree.I think this move will make it more difficult to achieve. A big (maybe the biggest) part of the mission is to convince the general public that EVs are a viable and economic alternative to ICE vehicles. If not only the upfront purchase price, but also the "fuel" are more expensive for EVs, it will just reinforce the impression that EVs are just toys for wealthy people. People here tend to assume that the success of EVs is a given, but the reality is that they have a low single-digit market share and there is still a huge hill to climb to make them mainstream outside of some hot spots like California.
That said, it is obvious that Tesla is under pressure financially, so I understand why they are doing it. Doesn't mean I have to like it.
My new career will be driving around West Texas during windy nights getting paid to Supercharge!**That doesn't lower Tesla's costs though. Having people charge when electricity is cheaper will.
They could have alerts in the app to tell you when electricity is on sale!My new career will be driving around West Texas during windy nights getting paid to Supercharge!**
** Negative grid wholesale doesn't happen regularly but it has been happening a few times a year.
Yeah they'll have to remove that bit of the page entirely I think.Not anymore...
You make the assumption that people all buy a Tesla for that same reason that you did, that is far from true. Also, regarding your comment on savings on oil and brakes, etc. Electricity is very expensive for many and as much as gas or more depending on what you drive. The repairs on my S alone were more than any ICE I have ever owned. My 3 is under warranty but has had at least $4K in repairs conservatively and is headed back in for more. Tesla does not make a reliable car yet. On the note of changing pricing, I saw the same reasoning not that long ago when I believe they raised CA rates and here is another big bump. Tesla highly promotes no need for home charging to push S sales, this is a fact in the Bay Area and they also promoted the free or low cost that followed. I have been driving EVs for more than 12 years and I do for my reasons but Tesla is not the car you buy to save money, perhaps a second hand Nissan LEAF.
Supercharging
Rate now shows $0.28/kWh for U.S. average.
Did they already drop the rate or are prices very fluid and the web page updates frequently?
Arguing with some cat on the Internet is so nowhere.
It blows my mind that people don't see we're on a speeding train to a brick wall. The concept of investing for the greater good is so, not on the radar, for so many. We are so toast,
The 2AM Dorm Room Philosopher has logged on, pass the Bong!That greater good is nothing but the sum of all individual “goods” and there is no public interest of any kind that will not be completely ruined once someone is empowered to decide on behalf of everyone else what’s worth investing in and what’s not.
Can you spot the difference here? It is an important one, I assure you.I lived through the misery of being forced, together with the rest of the Eastern Block, to work “for the greater good” rather than the “individual good”.
He was talking about AGW. Are you ?Not joking or antagonizing, but it blows MY mind to see how good a job the doom merchants are doing. That brick wall you’re talking about exists only in rhetoric designed to separate well-intended individuals like yourself from their money. There is NOTHING else to it. NOTHING.