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you're bringing back too many bad memories. I had all of those problems. I loved the car/drive but the constant problems made me sell it in the end. I didn't realise they split off now, but either way it did put me off BMWs.Me too ... in the days before they split off the BMW and Mini business ... oh, how they looked down on us lesser mortals! Power steering, suspension parts, top end engine rebuild, grinding gearbox ... thousands£ Oh, and when new the car paint spec was different to that ordered ... so they offered me some car cleaning products and a set of mats ... thanks.
Yes it was a great drive, particularly handling. For marketing purposes they just split at dealership level so "Mini" became its own thing not mixed with other upmarket BMW models ... it may have changed again for all I know becasue I haven't paid much attention.you're bringing back too many bad memories. I had all of those problems. I loved the car/drive but the constant problems made me sell it in the end. I didn't realise they split off now, but either way it did put me off BMWs.
Has anyone gone to a Taycan forum to see if anyone is thinking of getting a Tesla ?
That’s the thread I read as well. Friendly bunchHelp! Calling ex Tesla Model 3 owners
I have a Tesla Model 3 performance and i am strongly considering moving to a Taycan RWD or 4S however before i do this i would be really grateful if any ex Tesla Model 3 owners could provide their own insights including any regrets in making a similar move. I have made a list of the key areas...www.taycanforum.com
Seems model 3 is respected as much a a Toyota there.
And yes, it turns out this thread is ultimately about reliability.
For a true comparison, if I was to choose between a Porsche EV and Tesla, I would go model s plaid. If I was to go between Porsche and Audi, I would get the better value lease and get ICE
Tesla is a threat to the tradition. I like being part of a relatively new company who are killing traditions and changing the way we think…That’s the thread I read as well. Friendly bunch
Some countries cannot support EV within their infrastructure and hydrogen cell is a very good alternative and reduces potential in city pollution etc. so I don’t think we can preach when EV manufacture isn’t clean as you think.What's this obsession with reliability all of a sudden, has Tesla all of a sudden jumped off the bottom of the reliability ladder to the top .
If you want a boring, turly souless, white goods transportation get a Toyota or Lexus. We have one, its utterly reliable but its so dull and lifeless we choose to use our far less reliable Tesla every time.
Don't forget Toyotas stance on EVs, and Japan is currently building lots of new COAL power stations so they can make hydrogen cheaper.
Back to choosing between a Model 3 or Taycan......honestly what is there to think about?
For other Japanese cars let's chuck in the Impreza and Evo ... oh, and Datsun 240z way back when ... Yes, I'll vote for ditching the stereotypes too!Maybe your definition of Toyota extends to the Prius . 1994 supra, 2014 GT86, Yaris GR. i can keep going on?
Oh my . I love the 240z. I don’t know why, but as kid I wanted one more than a countach ( I don’t think I was considering reliability then!). Yes type r - my favourite and a future classic. Then we get to the true classics. Impreza P1, and celica 1st gen. Then the Nissan GTR. Of course, how about the RX7 - I would kill for a pristine one of those…For other Japanese cars let's chuck in the Impreza and Evo ... oh, and Datsun 240z way back when ... Yes, I'll vote for ditching the stereotypes too!
Porsche and Audi's have been "for profit" enterprises for a long, long time. There is little goodwill and much avoidance of owning problems even when it's their own fault. Every generation of 911 has had some major issues that Porsche disavowed from solving inside of the warranty, as impact to the bottom line would be horrendous. Of course, few times when hit to the reputation would be too much, they've done appropriate action: replaced my GT4 transmission under warranty, offered 8 years of warranty on GT3 engine with potential issues, replaced some few hundred 991 GT3 engines that were first, with design flow, susceptible to overheating and burning...As many of you will know i have been locked into a battle with Tesla trying to reject my 2020 M3P since April 2021. They have basically messed me around for the last 6 months agreeing to accept rejection of vehicle due to it being of unsatisfactory quality (see my previous thread for more information). But they want me to take out a new 48 month agreement and order a new M3P. They have agreed to give me a deposit contribution taking into account the M3P is £4k more expensive and they have also offered me £1500 cash compensation. I am mulling over what to do and then it dawned on me that perhaps i should just move to a different brand all together. I have been researching the Audi e-Tron and Taycan forums and the unanimous feeling is that they e-Tron and Taycan are far superior to the M3P albeit at much higher prices which are affordable to me. However upon doing my research i feel that i would really miss the following things about my Tesla if i were to move to a Taycan or E-Tron GT:
My understanding from all of the Taycan and E-Tron GT owners is that these cars are far better built and drive far better which i am sure we will all agree on however none of them can compete with Tesla with the above key areas that i would definitely miss.
- One pedal driving
- Auto pilot
- Integrated dash cam and sentry mode
- Supercharger network
- Lack of regular servicing requirements
- Tesla app
- Understated looks
Despite my exceptionally poor experience of Tesla with respect to my car's build quality i am finding myself in a position where i am not sure if a Taycan or E-Tron GT would provide a better overall package for me
I would appreciate any thoughts/insights that might help me make a decision on this
Just had a read through of that thread. Seemed pretty even-handed and fair to me.Help! Calling ex Tesla Model 3 owners
I have a Tesla Model 3 performance and i am strongly considering moving to a Taycan RWD or 4S however before i do this i would be really grateful if any ex Tesla Model 3 owners could provide their own insights including any regrets in making a similar move. I have made a list of the key areas...www.taycanforum.com
Thanks for mentioning this. Initially I read the first few posts and clicked off. Just read through everything and it was certainly worthwhile.Just had a read through of that thread. Seemed pretty even-handed and fair to me.