Did anyone see the person in the Y have their hands on the wheel when it drove out? It was easier to see on the other cars due to the amount of turning needed.
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Tesla autopilot HW3
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Did anyone see the person in the Y have their hands on the wheel when it drove out? It was easier to see on the other cars due to the amount of turning needed.
EM said the FSD should be feature complete by the end of this year.
EM said Model Y should start hitting the roads by fall next year.
So Model Y should already feature FSD "feature complete" when it's out of the production line, right?
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
So Model Y should already feature FSD "feature complete" when it's out of the production line, right?
yes, it should be.
Yah, stupid iphone editing, that's my bad, the context was @diplomat33 claiming an email from support proves the hardware upgrades are "promised"
Tesla Support has NFC, they never have, and depending on who you talk to you'll always get a different answer.
boonedocks
MS LR Blk/Blk 19”
Oh I have the thread context, but I don't know what you asked Support.
(It was just good natured hassling
)Oh I have the thread context, but I don't know what you asked Support.
(It was just good natured hassling
I sent an documented email with my claim to the original FSD features promised to me when I bought my car in 2016. Including all features and such with a nice time / date stamp seeking confirmation the obligations Tesla made to me in 2016 were still applicable to my car. Based, on that email. I just need to get to the SC and have them dump in HW3, LOL!
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
I don't know who mike83 is but if you are suggesting that I am an overly enthusiastic Tesla fan, somebody's got to be. This forum would be way too depressing if it were just you old timers whining and complaining about Tesla's failed promises all the time.
I don't know who mike83 is but if you are suggesting that I am overly enthusiastic Tesla fan, somebody's got to be. This forum would be way too depressing if it were just you old timers whining and complaining about Tesla's failed promises all the time.
Reality hurts, don't worry, give it a few months, you'll come to the light side, you just haven't seen enough missed expectations yet.
boonedocks
MS LR Blk/Blk 19”
I'll need the name of that Service Center Specialist once and after your HW3 upgrade is complete. (don't want to interfere with having yours done first) I will plan a mini couple day vacation trip to visit your area and have it done.
boonedocks
MS LR Blk/Blk 19”
Probably 97.985%, I am guessing, chance that todays Elon Promised March 15, 2019 major software release will NOT happen!!! IF it does it'll be a token few cars just so some can say "SEE HE DID IT...HE DIDN'T LIE"
Uncle Paul
Well-Known Member
There is a sign infront of the Gigling Marlin in Cabo. Something to the effect..if our establishment does not meet your high expectations...please lower your expectations.
In other words, many of the complaints are caused by overly optimistic expectations of what Tesla will roll out. If your expectations are out of line with reality, obviously you will be disappointed.
If you stand back a little, and take a look at what Tesla has achieved, the results have been remarkable.
Elon is also guilty of this high expectations thing. What he says represents his goals and aspirations. Often times the company is not able to reach his high expectations. Results are still fantastic.
In other words, many of the complaints are caused by overly optimistic expectations of what Tesla will roll out. If your expectations are out of line with reality, obviously you will be disappointed.
If you stand back a little, and take a look at what Tesla has achieved, the results have been remarkable.
Elon is also guilty of this high expectations thing. What he says represents his goals and aspirations. Often times the company is not able to reach his high expectations. Results are still fantastic.
I have three way race between Tesla Pickup, FSD, and a high enough stock price to buy it...
boonedocks
MS LR Blk/Blk 19”
Have you seen the prior posts and in other threads of what was committed to by Tesla. I only hold my expectations, as you call them, as to what Tesla literally sold me. Click on Model S and Read the FSD description on Tesla.com. Then compare to what I purchased. Notice anything I shouldn't be complaining about?
Are some of you guys not actually looking at what was sold and what IS being sold as FSD now?
I don't disagree with you at all, but I am curious why you elected to purchase FSD earlier this month?
boonedocks
MS LR Blk/Blk 19”
Purchased it at $2,000 for my wife’s Model X while it was on a fire sale. Since it appears Tesla is moving EAP features to FSD I don’t want her car to miss out on future software updates. I certainly didn’t and wouldn’t have if it wasn’t 1/2 to 1/3 price depending on your particular order page. That’s why 9 months after my S with FSD at purchase I did not select FSD at purchase on the X. At that point it truly looked like AP1 deja vu.
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boonedocks
MS LR Blk/Blk 19”
Just for kicks, here is what I ordered in February 2017 as Enhanced Autopilot. Tell me how this compares to the description for FSD for new cars purchased today?
What is being sold as FSD today!!!
What is being sold as FSD today!!!
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diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
For one, you basically got everything in that EAP description. The only thing missing is the no confirmation auto lane change and summon from your garage (smart summon) which is expected to come out in the next upcoming updates. So you are getting everything you paid for!
Your post is misleading because you are only looking at features available NOW but conveniently forgetting the future features that are promised to FSD and not to EAP. In addition to those EAP features, FSD is also is promised traffic light and stop sign recognition and "automatic city driving" which are definitely not EAP promised features. So FSD is more than EAP. So the idea that FSD is just a repackaged EAP is kinda silly.
boonedocks
MS LR Blk/Blk 19”
Did you forget to read the description of FSD three posts earlier as to what I purchased. Not what EAP in lieu of FSD was.
What you seem to be ignoring is that Tesla is systematically lowering the FSD description until they may no longer be liable for true FSD as I was sold . AP1 Dava Vu. I truly love your optimism but, again, some of us have been through this before.....honestly and truly I want this to all turn out the way is "should" but the bread crumbs being laid out are not looking good.
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diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
I guess I still don't see how Tesla is lowering the bar for FSD. They are promising "feature complete" FSD that after validation will be good enough that the driver will not need to pay attention. That's what Musk promised again just last night in the Model Y reveal. How is "feature complete" where you won't need to pay attention "lowering the bar" for FSD?
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