It's a funny juxtaposition, or maybe it's a reaction, because most of them went to schools that require uniforms, while most US schools don't.
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It's a funny juxtaposition, or maybe it's a reaction, because most of them went to schools that require uniforms, while most US schools don't.
That's a surreal regulation. Dual chargers are of course perfectly safe, though I doubt there are any charging stations in China which can use them. (Most charging stations which want dual chargers are in Canada.)
It appears that Tesla is following up on Elon's comment about further cultivating sales in Northeast - there are two new stores/galleries in New Jersey: one in Princeton and another in Cherry Hill. Both locations on the Teslamotors.com are listed without an address, just with a telephone No. and sales hours "By appointment only". Is anybody familiar with these stores? It seems that they are newly opened, but it is strange that they operate "By Appointment Only".
JRP3
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There is a similar one in Hamilton NY, which seems an odd location. It too is listed by appointment only, and the phone number is a NYC area code, not Hamilton.
Hamilton seems odd for Central NY, really should be Syracuse or even Binghamton. Are there state regulatory issues? My thought was that if there are, maybe for certain states Tesla should consider opening stores/service centers at Indian reservations (kind of like the Casinos). EG--Foxwoods in CT.
JRP3
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I think the current deal with NY is they can't open more than 5 stores, not sure if "galleries" are treated differently or what they are allowed to do.
Gerasimental
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Wow that bites, central NY really needs its own service area. Too large an area (geographically) to under serve. Yes population is less, but distances and the winters are long. Winters are bad for cars. Spent many a winters there in my youth. Could also provide service for central/northern PA along the 81 corridor. Similar rules in PA? Maybe Scranton or Wilkes-Barre... just speculating. Good Luck!
JRP3
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Yes, a centrally located store/gallery/service center could handle Syracuse, Rochester, Binghamton, etc. Cortland might be a good location, right off 81, or maybe Auburn or Seneca Falls to get it closer to Rochester. Not that those locations being within about half an hour from me has any influence on my choices...
Another indication that what Elon mentioned during the ER - cultivation of demand in New York - is not part of some future planning, but is actually unfolding contemporaneously: Tesla signed a lease for about 40,000 square feet of store and service center space in Brooklyn, NY. This will be second largest Store/SC in NA (after Montreal):
http://electrek.co/2016/02/22/tesla-showroom-service-center-brooklyn-ny/
http://electrek.co/2016/02/22/tesla-showroom-service-center-brooklyn-ny/
I was wondering if you central NY folks could petition Tesla to build a service center up there? Get a bunch of names, etc... Also do you think they may consider doing a Franchise service center (not a dealership) idea if they hit their 5 store ceiling in NY? May be semantics (Franchise vs. Dealer), but if it allows more service centers to be built...
Chickenlittle
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I thought I remembered new york as one of those settlement states that tesla was limited to five dealerships (if i am wrong stop reading now). I understand your talking about service center but if you only have 5 dealerships, you would want to put service centers near those and so new york officials are to blame since you would concentrate on high density areas with higher density of population and support those with service centers.
JRP3
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Yes, 5 store limitation, and they are all in the NYC area, leaving the rest of NY as a Tesla wasteland from Albany to Buffalo.
So here's my question. I recall there is an Indian reservation outside of Syracuse (Onandaga?). Technically Indian reservations are their own government/entity, at least so I was taught when working at the Navajo Nation. Thus couldn't Tesla put a service center there and technically NOT violate NY state law? Basically like the casinos (Foxwood, etc...). I know it's not good PR, but you guys need it.
JRP3
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Actually I think it's a great idea. Don't know how the law works in that case though. On the other hand, are service centers under the same restrictions as stores? I thought "service centers" and "galleries" were different entities and treated differently than stores.
Yes. We really should do this because it's ridiculous that they haven't even got a service center on the drawing board. There seem to be no legal restrictions on service centers.
They couldn't put a store in, however, due to the legal restrictions. Which honestly is OK with me; ordering online is great, and we've got plenty of people who will offer test drives to would-be customers. In NY, "dealer" licenses and "repair shop" licenses are *completely independent*. (Look on the wall: if a dealer in NY offers service, he has two separate metal plaques on the wall giving his *separate* license numbers as a dealer and as a repair shop.)
Syracuse is the most centrally located place you can get in upstate NY and should probably be the priority. It would be a plausible drive from Buffalo or from most of the North Country or from most of the Southern Tier. It's the furthest point from the state borders and therefore the most important point to have an *in-state* service center.
Albany/Schenectady/Troy would also be a desirable location... could always cross the border to Bennington VT or Pittsfield MA nstead, though.
There are only two Tesla service centers in the entire state of NY at the moment. Long Island and Westchester.
Musk has said that the Northeastern market is "underpenetrated":
Tesla highlights winter driving with the Model S as Northeast remains an market [Videos] | Electrek
Well, DUH, that's 'cause Tesla doesn't have any service centers outside Boston, NYC, and Philly. You have to build service centers. Nobody wants to drive 200+ miles in the snow to get their car serviced. Does Musk understand *why* he isn't selling many cars in the Northeast? It's the lack of service centers.
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It's the east/west coast fallacy: there's really nothing in between, I swear.
I think some of Tesla's execs (if not Elon) should take driving tours of more of the hinterland regions of the US. That would really open some eyes at how incredibly BIG and beautiful this country is (that's how I learned). They'd really be able to see it especially with Autopilot, which I never had criss-crossing the US. And how more service centers are needed, or potentially out-sourced.
Funny thing is that one of the comments exactly replicates what you said!
I think some of Tesla's execs (if not Elon) should take driving tours of more of the hinterland regions of the US. That would really open some eyes at how incredibly BIG and beautiful this country is (that's how I learned). They'd really be able to see it especially with Autopilot, which I never had criss-crossing the US. And how more service centers are needed, or potentially out-sourced.
Funny thing is that one of the comments exactly replicates what you said!
JRP3
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I totally agree with this. Tesla needs to add more service centers if they plan on getting any penetration. I don't consider the loss of range due to cold weather to be a big deal. Tesla's have plenty of range to begin with so the reduction is not an issue. Plus we know that the Model S handles well in the snow. So get moving Elon and add some service centers in the "under-penetrated" areas. Heck, for me even Rochester will do in the short run. An hour drive is not unreasonable. Three hours is outrageous, even on a sunny summer day.
