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Tesla Super Charger conspiracy
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Probably had more cases of cars running out of juice unable to find a charger that they want a bigger buffer. Still, the car should know when you are going home and that you often charge at home that when navigating there it does the 10% arrival approach.
Of course slow charging at higher state of charges doesn't help on busy sites.
Of course slow charging at higher state of charges doesn't help on busy sites.
I had the opposite this week. First time I've used a SuC since this thread. Car predicted 10% at end of journey, I stopped added 10% and car showed 20% at end. Drove out of the car park and it dropped to 15%.
Same on the homeward journey. Car charged to 98% (not on an SuC) and it showed 20% remaining at end. Drove the car 50 yds and it dropped to 15%. I wouldn't be surprised if the range shown when stationary was using a different algorithm to when driving.
Maybe adding the famously fickle UK weather into the algorithm wasn't a good idea
Same on the homeward journey. Car charged to 98% (not on an SuC) and it showed 20% remaining at end. Drove the car 50 yds and it dropped to 15%. I wouldn't be surprised if the range shown when stationary was using a different algorithm to when driving.
Maybe adding the famously fickle UK weather into the algorithm wasn't a good idea
Maybe difference was (speculating only) that my route required to stop at SC in order to reach destination. Yours was voluntary as I presumeI had the opposite this week. First time I've used a SuC since this thread. Car predicted 10% at end of journey, I stopped added 10% and car showed 20% at end. Drove out of the car park and it dropped to 15%.
Same on the homeward journey. Car charged to 98% (not on an SuC) and it showed 20% remaining at end. Drove the car 50 yds and it dropped to 15%. I wouldn't be surprised if the range shown when stationary was using a different algorithm to when driving.
Maybe adding the famously fickle UK weather into the algorithm wasn't a good idea
Another instance, SC at peak rate in Newport:
I arrive to SC with 29% SOC and car tells me I will be -19 at my destination if I will not charge. Usual stuff.
So I plug in and charge. I wait until it is charged to 70 odd %, and car telles me 1 minute before I can resume my trip. Fair enough,
I check sat nav and it tells me that I will arive with 19%>>> good enough. I jump out the car, disconnect the charger... Get in the car...
And now car tells me that I will arive hone with 30%
So not only it charges too much but also predicts arrival when charging at much lower SOC than reality, thus charging 10% more than it is really needed!
I arrive to SC with 29% SOC and car tells me I will be -19 at my destination if I will not charge. Usual stuff.
So I plug in and charge. I wait until it is charged to 70 odd %, and car telles me 1 minute before I can resume my trip. Fair enough,
I check sat nav and it tells me that I will arive with 19%>>> good enough. I jump out the car, disconnect the charger... Get in the car...
And now car tells me that I will arive hone with 30%
So not only it charges too much but also predicts arrival when charging at much lower SOC than reality, thus charging 10% more than it is really needed!
It's certainly not the latter, as evidenced by:
1) There being no evidence, not even anecdotes, of people failing to charge enough at Superchargers over the past three years
2) The estimated destination arrival SoC suddenly jumping up by circa 10% shortly after leaving a charger
Tesla Super Charger conspiracy
Good old tricky Elon. If he had any brains he would open up every single supercharger to the rest and let it rip instead of pranking these people. Funny guy 🤣
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Ah interesting, thanks.Tesla Super Charger conspiracy
Good old tricky Elon. If he had any brains he would open up every single supercharger to the rest and let it rip instead of pranking these people. Funny guy 🤣
That would be a strange assumption given that the car has a destination programmed into the Nav system.
Doesn't explain why it sometimes underestimates range either.
Simpler explanation is they broke the code. Has happened once or twice before
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I think the far larger conspiracy is how malthusian-esq leaders/elites convinced the public cheap energy was bad.
Between the dubious vilification of nuclear (consider Germany shuttering their nuke reactors), science-as-religion, geopolitical intrigue (Nordstream), macro economics (petrodollar), and whatever else our beloved global elite are doing 'for our own good', I seriously doubt Tesla is scheming to extract extra sterling for their own ends.
Not saying there a'int a conspiracy, just I doubt Tesla's competency in being able to execute on it.
My guess at least.
Bit of a bump from outside the UK!
But back on topic rather than a political point, I have a theory that I think is entirely plausible :
When the car is preconditioning for charging it uses more energy,
When the car is charging, its either heating or cooling the battery to maintain the optimum settings.
Since the new energy chart thing, it works out whats functions are using energy, and that includes energy going to the battery for heating/cooling
Where it goes wrong is that it assumes that energy use will continue after you've finshed charging even when it won't.
So.. the car is 150 miles from the destination on a supercharger charger, sipping an additional x amount of electrons, can says.. I need this much for distance, this much for speed, this much for elevation and this much for battery conditioning - that means we'll get there with y%
Unplug, battery conditioning falls to zero as a result, and the car constantly recalculates.. so guess what.. it now thinks you have more left when you arrive because all that battery conditioning stuff isn;t needed
But back on topic rather than a political point, I have a theory that I think is entirely plausible :
When the car is preconditioning for charging it uses more energy,
When the car is charging, its either heating or cooling the battery to maintain the optimum settings.
Since the new energy chart thing, it works out whats functions are using energy, and that includes energy going to the battery for heating/cooling
Where it goes wrong is that it assumes that energy use will continue after you've finshed charging even when it won't.
So.. the car is 150 miles from the destination on a supercharger charger, sipping an additional x amount of electrons, can says.. I need this much for distance, this much for speed, this much for elevation and this much for battery conditioning - that means we'll get there with y%
Unplug, battery conditioning falls to zero as a result, and the car constantly recalculates.. so guess what.. it now thinks you have more left when you arrive because all that battery conditioning stuff isn;t needed
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