I doubt it. Elon said they would do that when they reach 5k/wk capacity. They were around 3k before the line was stopped. My guess is either some equipment needed replacing, or Elon has determined that some pieces of equipment are the bottleneck, and humans can do it faster, so he is changing up the line to account for that.
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Tesla Temporarily Suspends Model 3 Production (Legit?)
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Krugerrand
Meow
For the same reason no other company on the planet does - irrelevant.
...when people have an opinion about that which they know nothing about...
For all of you who weren’t here for the Model X or Model S ramp
1. This happens all the time
2. Tesla has shown that they can increase build quality and quantity at the same time
3. The people pushing these taking points have been basically wrong about everything for the last six plus years
4. Most importantly, Tesla has already shown they can ramp 3 production to thousands per week
1. This happens all the time
2. Tesla has shown that they can increase build quality and quantity at the same time
3. The people pushing these taking points have been basically wrong about everything for the last six plus years
4. Most importantly, Tesla has already shown they can ramp 3 production to thousands per week
engle
Member
I'm with SoCalGuy. I think that's exactly what they are doing, along with some other things to (hopefully) increase ramp acceleration and improve quality. I sense many people like myself are on the sidelines waiting for AWD, and they need it for the Canadian and other snowy markets, too. The AWD 2nd motor will have an extra juicy profit margin just like the extended range battery does, which will help the cash flows even more.
Does anyone with a 3 know if there is any room where they could stuff the "bio-hazard mode" air filtration system like we have on the X? It's a great feature. I'd also like to see a performance model with an air suspension, larger brakes, etc. I don't expect to see that sort of thing until the ramp is completed, however.
I can visualize Elon being awake at some ungodly hour recently, judging from his ~1 am tweets, walking along the quiet final assembly Kuka line, and staring at it. He probably has a mental model of the entire thing in his brain by now, along with the "bottlenecks". He brainstorms various approaches to try to remove various ones. Peter H. should also be very helpful here (recruited from Audi).
The CBS interview was done simply because of this shutdown. Got to balance the positive with the negative. Talk about amateur hour with building cars though, its an expensive lesson for Elon. Guess they hire these folks experienced with production and then Elon ignores their input and aims for 200% from the get go.
engle
Member
CBS interview is also free publicity, shows how hard Elon and team are working, might reduce rate of 3 reservation cancellations, etc. It also changes the narrative away from the NTSB Model X gore point accident investigation.
Agree that Elon tends to be a dreamer has extremely high goals (why can't we just build an "alien dreadnought"?) that are often impractical when his people try to reduce them to practice. That said, I think it's ok to try to reach Mars but end up in Earth orbit when your competitors are still stuck on Earth. Elon and team will figure out how to iterate and solve all their production ramp issues. Once TSLA gets to cash flow positive, the rest of the auto industry better watch out! The ICE'rs have already panicked, which is why they are rushing 100+ EV model versions to market by 2022 so they don't bleed away most of their market share. This is exactly what Elon wanted - wipe out the ICE. Oil will only be needed to manufacture plastic -- what else is oil used for anyway?
On a positive note, once the Fremont 3 ramp is behind them, it should be much more straightforward to "clone" Fremont and ramp another 3 factory elsewhere when needed. Also, one would think that the Y ramp will be much more straightforward since Elon was convinced to use the same skateboard underneath it and not go "rogue" like he did on the Model X Falcon Wing Doors.
Agree that Elon tends to be a dreamer has extremely high goals (why can't we just build an "alien dreadnought"?) that are often impractical when his people try to reduce them to practice. That said, I think it's ok to try to reach Mars but end up in Earth orbit when your competitors are still stuck on Earth. Elon and team will figure out how to iterate and solve all their production ramp issues. Once TSLA gets to cash flow positive, the rest of the auto industry better watch out! The ICE'rs have already panicked, which is why they are rushing 100+ EV model versions to market by 2022 so they don't bleed away most of their market share. This is exactly what Elon wanted - wipe out the ICE. Oil will only be needed to manufacture plastic -- what else is oil used for anyway?
On a positive note, once the Fremont 3 ramp is behind them, it should be much more straightforward to "clone" Fremont and ramp another 3 factory elsewhere when needed. Also, one would think that the Y ramp will be much more straightforward since Elon was convinced to use the same skateboard underneath it and not go "rogue" like he did on the Model X Falcon Wing Doors.
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Blu Angel
Member
Let's get OUT of production He'll!
This is a great deduction
All great points!
You're right.....most Tesla 3 owners have not experienced the Model X & S problems
Patience is a virtue but it's still super difficult to wait....
Guess we'll soon find the real reason for this shutdown
On the Biohazard Defense Mode, pretty sure it was stated somewhere that isn’t going to be an option. Like the heated steering wheel. Some things are not on the 3 for a reason. This is the simpler lower cost car.
ah, I get your original post now. You are referring to when Tesla assigns a VIN to a physical build. Yes, that step needs to happen first before the build because it's stamped onto the body. But the act of assigning a VIN to a buyer is different, and that is what the poster was asking about. The buyer assignment always happens after a car with a VIN has already been built and QC'd.
voip-ninja
Give me some sugar baby
What’s the source for 3k/w?
They barely broke 2k/w for their huge push at the end of March.
He probably read this article:
Tesla Model 3 production nearing 3,000 per week, according to online tracker
I'd be hesitant to use "always". That's how it is being done now mostly because, with the limited number or options, they can do it that way. However, as production ramps and more options are available, that will more than likely change to the same way they do it with the S and X where you get your VIN before, or right as, the car goes into production.
voip-ninja
Give me some sugar baby
Yeah, there's already a 20 page thread about the horror of Tesla making this omission.
No heated steering wheel? (Leaf and Bolt have it)
Swampgator
Active Member
At least we know for a fact Tesla is not shutting down due to lack of demand, but instead they are attemping to make improvements to meet demand. Good problems to have.
GM plans to close 15 plants for 9 weeks
Ford to Temporarily Shut Down Five North American Plants - Motor Trend
https://jalopnik.com/bmw-assembly-line-shut-down-after-crossfaded-workers-pa-1793503583
GM plans to close 15 plants for 9 weeks
Ford to Temporarily Shut Down Five North American Plants - Motor Trend
https://jalopnik.com/bmw-assembly-line-shut-down-after-crossfaded-workers-pa-1793503583
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