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That haircut.Someone from Tesla probably drove it over
Elon giving a speech earlier!
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CLK350
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That was none other than Elon himself driving it.
Model Y in limited production at Giga Texas AND Giga Berlin this year, volume production 2022, per Elon Musk
Probably also checking in on the Lithium mining / LiOH progress nearby - these may well be revolutionary as it would be the first time any company would integrate vertically Li mining/ refining AND Lithium Hydroxide production which is the end product needed for battery production.
From The Limiting Factor which has a very well informed /detailed series on battery tech - summary starting at 20:30 if you want to skip the details on how even tho all elements are known, by vertically integrating them, Tesla would save time and money on many steps, including transportation.
Model Y in limited production at Giga Texas AND Giga Berlin this year, volume production 2022, per Elon Musk
Probably also checking in on the Lithium mining / LiOH progress nearby - these may well be revolutionary as it would be the first time any company would integrate vertically Li mining/ refining AND Lithium Hydroxide production which is the end product needed for battery production.
From The Limiting Factor which has a very well informed /detailed series on battery tech - summary starting at 20:30 if you want to skip the details on how even tho all elements are known, by vertically integrating them, Tesla would save time and money on many steps, including transportation.
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Artful Dodger
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Who needs ads and a PR team when the man himself shows up with the product and talks to the people building the factory for the product? Amazing!Someone from Tesla probably drove it over
Elon giving a speech earlier!
Wonder how many there made a reservation if they didn’t have one before.
It looks like the yoke is a thing.
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ByeByeJohnny
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Sorry, not watching any videos without cybertrucks now.
Someone from Tesla probably drove it over
Elon giving a speech earlier!
Is that a mullet peaking out?
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Japan bets on hydrogen to lift its ambitious carbon-neutral plans
The idea is to use the power from brown coal, considered so dirty that even Australia’s coal-heavy energy grid is gradually moving away from it, to electrolyze water into its components: hydrogen and oxygen. The hydrogen will then be liquefied by cooling it to minus-423 degrees and transported on specially built supertankers to a new unloading and storage terminal in the Port of Kobe. From there it can be used to fuel power plants, transport and industry in Japan.
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Japan bets on hydrogen to lift its ambitious carbon-neutral plans
The idea is to use the power from brown coal, considered so dirty that even Australia’s coal-heavy energy grid is gradually moving away from it, to electrolyze water into its components: hydrogen and oxygen. The hydrogen will then be liquefied by cooling it to minus-423 degrees and transported on specially built supertankers to a new unloading and storage terminal in the Port of Kobe. From there it can be used to fuel power plants, transport and industry in Japan.
That's only carbon neutral if the wreck happened outside of the environment.
Japan bets on hydrogen to lift its ambitious carbon-neutral plans
The idea is to use the power from brown coal, considered so dirty that even Australia’s coal-heavy energy grid is gradually moving away from it, to electrolyze water into its components: hydrogen and oxygen. The hydrogen will then be liquefied by cooling it to minus-423 degrees and transported on specially built supertankers to a new unloading and storage terminal in the Port of Kobe. From there it can be used to fuel power plants, transport and industry in Japan.
That is an incredibly stupid idea.
A very useful website has been made to prove this: waterstofgate.nl (waterstof is Dutch for hydrogen).
This website has simple calculations of many businesscases, one of them being the production of hydrogen for Japan from Australian brown coal.
With the help of Google translate this website is easily accessible for other languages (direct link to this businesscase).
Conclusion: "Due to the production of hydrogen from lignite and transport to Japan, the emissions of a Toyota Mirai per km come to 945 grams of CO2 per km. The CO2 emissions allowed for passenger cars in The Netherlands are 95 grams per km."
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StealthP3D
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Well, there goes almost 1% of the revenue I was counting on! Dang! I hope I can still put food on my family...
Clever marketing, if Elon offered test drives, he would have sold a few more
StealthP3D
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That's true. Musk did pour jet fuel on GameStop.
But only because he didn't want to waste perfectly good rocket fuel when he knew jet fuel would work equally well.
StealthP3D
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I think the Cybertruck looks even better dirty than it does clean!
Cybertruck spotted at Giga Texas!
Japan bets on hydrogen to lift its ambitious carbon-neutral plans
The idea is to use the power from brown coal, considered so dirty that even Australia’s coal-heavy energy grid is gradually moving away from it, to electrolyze water into its components: hydrogen and oxygen. The hydrogen will then be liquefied by cooling it to minus-423 degrees and transported on specially built supertankers to a new unloading and storage terminal in the Port of Kobe. From there it can be used to fuel power plants, transport and industry in Japan.
They have got everything wrong.
1. The cheapest way to make hydrogen will be via wind and solar. Hydrogen is a good fit for a RE overbuild which in turn reduces the amount of storage needed. If hydrogen production is a demand load, it can get electricity at cheap prices. Siemens has an electrolyser which ramps up in Milliseconds, specifically for this purpose.
2. The easy was to transport hydrogen is to convert it in Ammonia, my understanding is that then common Ammonia or LNG transports can be used. People are still working on the best way to convert Ammonia back into hydrogen.
3. Japan should look at offshore wind or wave power to supplement their land based wind and solar generation. They have significant marine territories..
My conclusion - Gordon has has new job.
Japan can figure out the easy way or the hard way that there is no economically or environmentally sustainable future for large-scale hydrogen general transportation. Let's see which way they choose. They still haven't chosen a path that takes them to a population which doesn't collapse by 2050, so maybe this isn't that important anyways in the grand scheme of things.
Japan bets on hydrogen to lift its ambitious carbon-neutral plans
The idea is to use the power from brown coal, considered so dirty that even Australia’s coal-heavy energy grid is gradually moving away from it, to electrolyze water into its components: hydrogen and oxygen. The hydrogen will then be liquefied by cooling it to minus-423 degrees and transported on specially built supertankers to a new unloading and storage terminal in the Port of Kobe. From there it can be used to fuel power plants, transport and industry in Japan.
As the construction guys with their pickups parked in the background say "What in the hell?"
Cybertruck spotted at Giga Texas!
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