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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Exactly the same thing has happened for the 432th time. What is really surprising that 'old timers' freak out like this is the end of the word. Don't blame the newer folks. Yet again, colors have changed to the right one.
Can we stop moaning too much???
Is it the 9th yet?
Can we stop moaning too much???
Is it the 9th yet?
navguy12
Active Member
And by random chance, this popped up: https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/ba...release-mining-effluent-regulations-1.6271537
Tesla Giga Berlin production unlikely to begin in 2021 as water pumping hearing delayed
A hearing related to water pumping near Tesla’s upcoming German production plant, known as Giga Berlin, has been delayed for the third time, making it unlikely that the electric automaker will begin production of its vehicles at the facility in 2021. The hearing has to do with water pumping...
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There's debate on if this article is correct at all. Other sources that are familiar with Germany/Europe dynamics (Alex_Avoigt for instance ) are saying this isn't delaying/stopping anything.
If things do get delayed again for a 3rd time, I'm in the camp that thinks Elon/Tesla should start to put this in the spotlight by openly saying any further expansion plans at GigaBerlin are put on hold and there will be an open bid for another factory and have European countries put in their bids. Germany can put in their own bid, but Germany doesn't get to assume it's the home of Tesla's European branch anymore.
At this point, I don't trust the German government even after production does start at Giga Berlin and that Tesla should start planning alternatives.
RobDickinson
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It seems teslas water contract with their supplier isnt in question its further upstream (so to speak) so shouldnt directly affect tesla
Tesla Giga Berlin production unlikely to begin in 2021 as water pumping hearing delayed
A hearing related to water pumping near Tesla’s upcoming German production plant, known as Giga Berlin, has been delayed for the third time, making it unlikely that the electric automaker will begin production of its vehicles at the facility in 2021. The hearing has to do with water pumping...
There's debate on if this article is correct at all. Other sources that are familiar with Germany/Europe dynamics (Alex_Avoigt for instance ) are saying this isn't delaying/stopping anything.
If things do get delayed again for a 3rd time, I'm in the camp that thinks Elon/Tesla should start to put this in the spotlight by openly saying any further expansion plans at GigaBerlin are put on hold and there will be an open bid for another factory and have European countries put in their bids. Germany can put in their own bid, but Germany doesn't get to assume it's the home of Tesla's European branch anymore.
At this point, I don't trust the German government even after production does start at Giga Berlin and that Tesla should start planning alternatives.
time to spring up some tents in Poland.
Elon gave them carrots, now they need a stick.
Elon Musk will submit to a half-hour interview by a Wall Street Journal columnist during the CEO Council at 7:30 pm EST this evening. This is a bump up from the earlier announced 8 pm.
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They're certainly being thorough (a natural German trait) but I disagree with the idea that the German government is against Tesla. It's special interests manipulating the rules to delay things.Tesla Giga Berlin production unlikely to begin in 2021 as water pumping hearing delayed
A hearing related to water pumping near Tesla’s upcoming German production plant, known as Giga Berlin, has been delayed for the third time, making it unlikely that the electric automaker will begin production of its vehicles at the facility in 2021. The hearing has to do with water pumping...
There's debate on if this article is correct at all. Other sources that are familiar with Germany/Europe dynamics (Alex_Avoigt for instance ) are saying this isn't delaying/stopping anything.
If things do get delayed again for a 3rd time, I'm in the camp that thinks Elon/Tesla should start to put this in the spotlight by openly saying any further expansion plans at GigaBerlin are put on hold and there will be an open bid for another factory and have European countries put in their bids. Germany can put in their own bid, but Germany doesn't get to assume it's the home of Tesla's European branch anymore.
At this point, I don't trust the German government even after production does start at Giga Berlin and that Tesla should start planning alternatives.
This!!!
You're doing it right, @jkirkwood001 .
I've goaded many relatives into opening trading accounts, then I ask their account number and transfer a significant gift into their account... shares, or a LEAP, just for no real reason except that I can. And if they lose a little at first, at least it doesn't come out of their own money.
I live in the ULEZ in London and it's amazing how many 3s we have here now. It's not uncommon to see multiple 3s parked on the same block (and the blocks are tiny). Last year I was still getting excited when I saw a 3 go by as they were so rare.
I expect bureaucracy in Germany but I also expect the German officials to have common sense. Either German officials are fully aware that the many lawsuits and objections are intentional by fake environmental groups and they still let this continue or they're so oblivious that these fake environmental groups can just continue objections/lawsuits into oblivion.
Either way, German officials can't be trusted at this point. Tesla needs to start thinking of a alternative plan and make it clear to Germany that they're not the only choice for manufacturing in Europe.
Keep in mind, there is a COAL factory mere miles away from Giga Berlin's location that use much more water than the Berlin factor would use. In fact, there are no water restrictions on the many factories located around Giga Berlin. How anyone can take this as anything other than favoritism is beyond me.
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
How is any of this different than today's "SEC investigation" or any of the 90 million other US obstructions to Tesla's progress? It sure smells like Berlin will be "opening" on 12/9. All is well!
I said in the first post that the article itself is debatable in it's accuracy and that IF there actually was a 3rd delay
I don't think it's favouritism - it's just that no-one cares when Joe's widget factory opens up - special interests groups don't get any notoriety by opposing those.
But I agree with the idea of getting a plan b. If the system is so ineffective as to delay production start by a year+ then having an alternative option for future expansion is the only sensible way forward. At the very least it would apply pressure for the German governments to resolve the issues quickly.
navguy12
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Will his interview be streamed live, in total?
Or will one only be able to see a “highlights” version?
LightngMcQueen
Aspirationally Rational
This would mirror California -> Texas move in more than one way.
Irregardless of the stock being down today I didn't fail to avoid selling but rather accumulated less than an unfair share. Don't stop unbelieving Dear Market!
who moans about volatility has little idea how markets work.
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