We have a popular saying in The Netherlands that pretty much sums it all up:
AfterwardsIn hindsight you can look at the cow's ass.
My goodness, I must have been sleeping to miss this funny language opportunity. FTFM.
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We have a popular saying in The Netherlands that pretty much sums it all up:
AfterwardsIn hindsight you can look at the cow's ass.
Oh yeah, after the initial sales to fanbois in Europe, there will be a lack of demand as the Yoke/Joke will be even more unsafe on the many traffic circles in Europe.
I sincerely hope there is high level pushback by Tesla's EU leadership so as to replace it with a far more safe steering wheel with usable turn signals.
No worries. You shouldn't ____ ants. (Did I use that one correctly?)My goodness, I must have been sleeping to miss this funny language opportunity. FTFM.
Ah, no, no, no.There seems to be a shortage of economic and industrial understanding on this board. The world ceases to exist almost overnight without oil - in six months we're all dead. High prices alone costs millions of lives per year. You can't make a Tesla without using a ton of oil (ex: it takes 8 gallons to produce a tire). Add that to steel, concrete, chemicals, fertilizer, plastics and hundreds of other products. It's like asking the sun to stop shining. How do you guys not understand this? Didn't Elon say we need more oil? Did you think he was joking? I got more bad news for you: when bot comes online and we go through another revolution in industrial productivity, the world will be using more oil ... not less. But, if it makes you feel good, go ahead and vilify the people who are keeping the lights on ... they don't really care what you think.
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Two things can be true at the same time:Ah, no, no, no.
Please, stop misleading those on this thread--we deserve better.
The fossil fuel industry DOES need to be vilified for they are evil, perpetuating misinformation re: climate change for decades so as to line their pockets at the expense of our only planet's future.
Are you not familiar with these facts?
Inside Exxon’s playbook
How America's biggest oil company continues to oppose action on climate changeunearthed.greenpeace.org
And:
ERCOT Announces Electricity Market Redesign, Warns Of More Energy Conservation Requests
The market redesign is ongoing, and the grid operator has already made some changes to improve reliability. Nonetheless, officials warn Texans to expect more energy conservation requests in the coming weeks as temperatures rise.www.tpr.org
Key quote:
Earlier this month — about two weeks after receiving a $1 million donation from a natural gas executive whose company made more than $2 billion during the winter storm — [Texas] Gov. Greg Abbott told the PUC to incentivize gas, coal and nuclear power while adding costs for renewables.
And:
Exxon Knew about Climate Change Almost 40 Years Ago
A new investigation shows the oil company understood the science before it became a public issue and spent millions to promote misinformationwww.scientificamerican.com
And, a recent THREE-PART PBS documentary on just how long they've been at this:
The Power of Big Oil | FRONTLINE
Watch FRONTLINE's three-part documentary examining the fossil fuel industry’s history of casting doubt and delaying action on climate change.www.pbs.org
And, please, at least watch the trailer:
YES, I do concur on this singular point: for now we still require unburned fossil fuels for a wide variety of products (tires, etc.) but at least those are not converted into GHG's. So that gives them a pass for decades of lies and more, not to mention likely funding the incessant attacks on Tesla and Elon Musk? I'd posit that the unburned part of their product stream is ~20%, or less? Does that allow us to forgive that the firms and their lobbyists are 100% evil?
p.s. Want more recent examples of their work to screw over the entire planet? How about the material from just the past few months and weeks regarding how Sen Manchin has been THE roadblock on BBB and how the latest legislation version remains a huge boon to oil and gas?
WARNING: THE FOLLOWING ARTICLES MAY CAUSE NAUSEA AND RAGE:
Manchin's campaign contributions surpassed $1.5 million as his leverage loomed toward end of 2021
Being arguably the most powerful person in Washington, D.C., was a lucrative position for Sen. Joe Manchin in the final months of 2021.www.wvgazettemail.com
And:
'Easter eggs' in climate bill delight oil and gas industry
"If you squint hard enough, you can see this being a bipartisan compromise," one lobbyist said.www.politico.com
Key point:
The bill would also require the Interior Department to offer at least 2 million acres a year for onshore oil and gas lease sales. Unless it holds those lease sales, the bill says, the department could not offer rights of way for solar and wind power projects.
And:
Manchin has raked in $400K in fossil fuel donations
Sen. Joe Manchin took in more than $400,000 from fossil fuel interests in recent months as he fought his colleagues' plans to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in the electricity sector.www.eenews.net
Key point:
But the fossil fuel donations he received in recent months overwhelmingly came from the oil and natural gas industry, not coal.
How One Senator Doomed the Democrats’ Climate Plan
Senator Joe Manchin III of West Virginia led his party and his president through months of tortured talks, with nothing to show for it as the planet dangerously heats up.www.nytimes.com
Key point:
Senator Joe Manchin III of West Virginia, who took more campaign cash from the oil and gas industry than any other senator, and who became a millionaire from his family coal business, independently blew up the Democratic Party’s legislative plans to fight climate change.
I can hear the FUD articles being written as we speak. Tesla is only worth so much because drunk Elon stans don't know what, or even if, they're buying or selling.
I don't know, but I feel it's annoying me as well.How is this kerosene troll still posting here?
Also re all comments on Tesla battery pack repairs - the confusion may be because of some earlier FUD relating to Roadster and Model S only battery packs. Turns out these can be repaired without a complete battery swap; individual cells also may be replaced/ repaired/ neutralized. As far as I know only Gruber Motors does this properly.All of the older packs had individually fused cells so that if one cell shorted ("went bad") the fuse would blow and the rest of the pack would function just fine. If a cell failed open instead, it's as if the fuse blew so the same result. There is a (usually small) loss of range because the balancing requires all of the series elements to have the same capacity. It's mostly true that this is not repairable at the cell level but it does not mean that the loss of one cell means the whole battery is bad. I'm confident the same is true for the new structural pack.
Has anyone figured out how to download that (huge) photo file ? Paging Tesla photographers ...Looks like the annual meeting will include some fireworks.
If you recall the referral reward where Tesla said they would launch a photo into space, they've put together a nice mosaic of them all and the launch is scheduled for August 4: Tesla Photo in Space Mosaic | Tesla
I disagree with almost everything he says, but I would not call him a troll.How is this kerosene troll still posting here?
How about the material from just the past few months and weeks regarding how Sen Manchin has been THE roadblock on BBB and how the latest legislation version remains a huge boon to oil and gas?
You still can’t order one in Europe.Changing the subject, is Model S production getting ahead of demand? In Florida there is no reason to order a Plaid. I have a choice of six Plaids I can pick up today. Not a bad drive to any of them.
Yes, we are all very lucky.Manchin was able to be the roadblock because EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN declined to step up to the plate and support the legislation.
Thanks for pointing out this video. A goldmine indeed!Have you guys watched this? Just a goldmine of information, from brand loyalty, sale numbers, competition migration, how Tesla is destroying historical trends, and everything you need to know about this auto game. One gold nugget is that EV loyalty from luxury brand has gone down by 11%, meaning 11% of those who bought other EVs went to Tesla. 95% of household who bought a Tesla went back and bought another Tesla if they were to go for another car.
He brought in Taycan and EQS as examples of many people who owned the S went to them but not many came back, but did add the stipulation that it may be because of model refresh supply issue.
The guy from S&P has personal biases and have on occasion talks about Tesla quality issues and fatal accidents they need to correct. I had no idea people didn't die in other cars...
He also talks about how they model Tesla's marketshare going down to the 20%s, and that there will be an inflection point in which all of Tesla's fatal accidents and poor quality will catch up to them(his personal opinion). I believe these biases feed into why Tesla is not investment grade because most people has these biases.
Anyways, too much good hard data to summarize and every investor should watch this even though some of those personal bias things are hard to watch.