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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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I attribute the price action to more short-term puts the force the MM's (market makers) to delta hedge and sell shares lower so that TSLA's price action is not organic and is primarily caused by short-seller PUT buying.Exactly this. Until buying volume comes in to overcome the MM's we will likely keep trending downward for as long as the MM's can make it happen.
Chicken's ridiculous prediction of $140 is only a staggering 17% down from here....
Just wanna say "Thank you!" to the mods of this thread. Today, I've witnessed so many posts that were either way off topic, snippy or otherwise not appropriate. These have been moved or deleted very quickly and I, for one, really appreciate it!
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
While I understand your sentiment, I don't agree with this analysis. Via the chart you posted, there are over 25K puts open at the $165 strike, but only 16K calls.
That's not a "call wall" that's a "put wall". It's not until you get up into the $185 strikes that Calls outnumber Puts.
Dow up over 500, TSLA down almost 6%... sounds about right?
StealthP3D
Well-Known Member
StealthP3D
Well-Known Member
I humbly ask you to re-read what I wrote. Even just looking at the share price, the performance of TSLA has been superior over the last three years. Three years takes us back to December of 2019.
I have come to fear what Elon brings to town on the weekends.
I thought 2 weekends ago was bad, then this weekend happened. I cant imagine next weekends nonsense.
You are correct, but it's my pet theory that they want to accumulate shares and have been doing it via puts as it doesn't spike the share price...
But they do not want to sell those shares down here, so they defend the call-walls
Stretch2727
Engineer and Car Nut
As well I have been watching the inventory in the US on EV-CPO and it has been around 1000 vehicles for Model Y and 3 combined for the past few weeks. About 150 Model S and X. I actually think some of the cars are in-transit or still being built as you can select the delivery center location to pick up. 1000 is about 1/2 days US production rate.
Oh well, another day and another more than 6% down move.
Is it me or is the volatility of TSLA increasing lately? It has been a volatile stock but this is crazy.
I was in the West Vancouver Tesla store the other day and the guy told me that they see people coming in talking about the erratic behaviour of Elon. He didn’t say it affected sales but I have a feeling it does.
I think TSLA is in a very strange situation at the moment as there is a real concern of sustainability. We all know that Tesla will be fine and that their balance sheet is exceptional.
However, Tesla has still an image of a start-up with an erratic CEO. My hunch is that the people in the street still doubt about the sustainability of Tesla and think traditional car companies will come through and make Tesla obsolete; especially with this erratic CEO. This hurts the stock. The only thing to reverse this sentiment is to bring real value to the stock by paying dividends or something like that.
Is it me or is the volatility of TSLA increasing lately? It has been a volatile stock but this is crazy.
I was in the West Vancouver Tesla store the other day and the guy told me that they see people coming in talking about the erratic behaviour of Elon. He didn’t say it affected sales but I have a feeling it does.
I think TSLA is in a very strange situation at the moment as there is a real concern of sustainability. We all know that Tesla will be fine and that their balance sheet is exceptional.
However, Tesla has still an image of a start-up with an erratic CEO. My hunch is that the people in the street still doubt about the sustainability of Tesla and think traditional car companies will come through and make Tesla obsolete; especially with this erratic CEO. This hurts the stock. The only thing to reverse this sentiment is to bring real value to the stock by paying dividends or something like that.
Stretch2727
Engineer and Car Nut
So basically predicting a near record but they need to slow production.
truth table ( 2 binary events in one)
bad CPI, bad China numbers
bad CPI, good China numbers
good CPI, bad China numbers
good CPI, good China numbers
or financial performance and naming a Tw***** CEO?
petit_bateau
Active Member
Maybe he needs a warm bed, at least for weekends. Who fancies taking one for the team ?
Indeed, I just looked at Belgian inventory and there's basically nothing. Normally this time of the quarter you'll see a excess of inventory "in transit", but nope... and we've seen record ships to EU this quarter too
Gives some hope on nasty red days like this...
His numbers make zero sense. If he's expecting 16k, why is he estimating that tesla would end Q4 with a massive number of vehicles in inventory. As in over 50k in inventory. The numbers don't add up.
I had a friend call me up just now and asked what I thought of him dropping $50K on TSLA shares. What's surprising is that I haven't been sharing anything lately and he just seemed to know it doesn't add up.
I believe there are many like him, ready to jump onboard trying to time the bottom, and see the game. And that's all it takes to get the ball rolling, at just the right time.
I believe there are many like him, ready to jump onboard trying to time the bottom, and see the game. And that's all it takes to get the ball rolling, at just the right time.
Tesla does manage what inventory they show (have been doing this for the last 6 years at least), so it could be larger. You just don't know the real number, except if there was very little inventory at the end of a quarter. My guess is, the showrooms won't be empty this year (I'm sure Q1 will be back to the way it usually is).
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