It means that Elon will be dinged by insider trading if Q4 is a surprise to the downside. So the fact that he was allowed to sell and the board approved means Q4's performance should be fine.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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thesmokingman
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Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Back in 2018/2019, I discussed at length here whether Elon would do a "Henry Ford" to acquire Tesla:
Search results for query: Henry | Tesla Motors Club
If you don't know the history, that was when Henry Sr. retired which lead to the stock tanking 90% then Henry taking Ford Motors private for 10 cents on the dollar, mainly at the expense of the largest Ford shareholders, the Dodge Bros. This article covers the comparison:
Remember That Time Ford Went Private? Elon Musk & Henry Ford ... | Cleantechnica Sep 1, 2018
Now, I don't think going private is his plan. Recently, Elon made comments that general AI is best developed by a public company, so the shareholders can fire him if they don't like the way its going.
But Elon is a student of history, and I'm sure the "Henry Ford" gambit occurred to him when the SEC was suing him in Oct 2018 for unfounded reasons they knew were, but banks had Elon over a barrel. I think that experience more than anything has affected the way Elon views banks, and debt.
In the next few weeks and months, I'm more interested in whether Elon executes a large number of stock options from his 2018 CEO compensation plan. Again, @mongo has made an excellent case that the best financial result for Elon might be to wait until the end of the vesting window (2028 I think) before he executes his options.
However, I have the lingering feeling that executing at current low share prices minimizes Elon's tax owing, and also the amount of payroll taxes that Tesla would have to pay for Elon. I think with Elon's history, this is an attractive option. But I don't think he "Henry Ford's" the SP to do it.
Cheers!
This is like sci-fi movie script come to life. Boy wonder and the villians. Add in the Fusion breakthrough... it all seems surreal lately. But I also take you seriously and will be watching for this now.
Only problem is how do I explain this to my neighbors who are still hung up on range anxiety, along with what is electricity anyway, and is it Watt or WOT? I feel like I'm talking to a bunch of cats! Ya, it's that bad around here.
FSDtester#1
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Baron's Retail Fund, owns both tlsa and SpaceX
Ha! Now I've got to find out if I have a heartbeat!
Tesla, Kia and Nissan electric vehicles are the most reliable: Consumer Reports
Tesla has ranked highly in an EV reliability survey conducted by Consumer Reports, joined at the top by Nissan and Kia. Consumer Reports conducts surveys that reach hundreds of thousands of car owners, allowing them […]
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I hope this doesn't get removed as Elon was directly addressing Tesla shareholders.
Not sure if this was discussed already, but what do you think Elon meant by this? I'm having a hard time thinking about how Tesla shareholders could ever benefit.
Not sure if this was discussed already, but what do you think Elon meant by this? I'm having a hard time thinking about how Tesla shareholders could ever benefit.
Elon bailed him out, imho. He got lucky.
thesmokingman
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We were at my daughters HS event and chatting with other parents. One said they were looking at getting their daughter a Blazer EV, I nearly spit my drink out. I'm not one of those Tesla ambassador types but I had to say something. I tried to push him to read more about EVs and not to gobble up the BS GM narratives, look at the actual EV battery tech, it's not all the same. Lotta noobs to EV have really scarirly poor understanding of the technology.
Well there are a lot of numbers between 300+ and 150. So calling the direction can be attributed to Elon. Calling the actual number on the other hand.....
So two months now of non-stop FUD spread by not just Rueter....ahem..."others" as well. Hope they're happy with themselves. Rueter's you expect this type of crap fun. The others, need to get off their high horse.
Seems like the last two weeks of slowdown in weekly China registrations was more due to Covid preventing deliveries to occur + Tesla was shipping local deliveries to other parts of China so that they can be delivered by end of the Dec.
Hey mate, what's the stock symbol (to save me some searching)?
Merci beaucoup mon ami!
I was reading "likely now", where Gary wrote "Odds of a negative 4Q surprise are therefore likely low.", that´s why it didn´t make sense - really scared myself
Todd Burch
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Since everyone can use some cheering up around here (myself included, especially if you know my situation) TSLA has a nice negative beta in a good way today. Tiny moments of happiness...
Here's the orginal version from Consumer Reports yesterday:Tesla, Kia and Nissan electric vehicles are the most reliable: Consumer Reports
Tesla has ranked highly in an EV reliability survey conducted by Consumer Reports, joined at the top by Nissan and Kia. Consumer Reports conducts surveys that reach hundreds of thousands of car owners, allowing them […]
Tesla and Nissan Make the Most Reliable Electric Vehicles
thesmokingman
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Josh Brown on CNBC atm, one of the real analysts that doesn't do FUD which usually means teh CNBC *hosts end up arguing with him every appearance, lol.
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