Depending on NACS support and the SW stack + experience...I'd buy this over my Model 3. Not Model Y though (which I got to test drive recently).
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It still makes sense for small vehicles when moving to higher voltage and also 48V can produce more consistency and simplicity in manufacturing process. If it does not reduce costs, including allowing more Supercharger throughput, they probably will not do it. Anyway, my disagree was based on making a generic assumption that status quo remains. That is never a good assumption with Tesla.I've counted the cell on Rivian structural pack
34 by 8 cells on each module, 3 modules, extrapolating from 4680 energy content of 86 to 95 Wh per cell, each 4695 cell should be somewhere from 102 to 113 Wh
In that config, R2 pack should be somewhere around 83 to 92 kWh, no point trying to predict efficiency since all we know is 300+ miles of range, but I wouldn't expect it to beat or even get close to Model Y efficiency since it's much boxier and higher
We can also try to speculate pack voltage, configs that are easy to do in this pack layout are 102S8P and 367 V nominal and 204S4P 734 V
I don't think they will go higher voltage since for smaller vehicles it doesn't make much sense, plus larger cells without a tabless electrode or similar charge slower (or even with tabless, looking at you Cybertruck)
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The Hans-And-Lars X livestream revealed nothing new
I don’t know which company you’re talking about, but Tesla IS doing more than one vehicle at a time AND running a few other companies within itself expected to be larger than its car division.Agreed. In the beginning Hans mentioned "some other top secret stuff" behind the curtains. I hope they have more than the$25K car behind there as Tesla is large enough now that they need to get beyond developing 1 complete new model at time. Elon mentioned one time that he thinks they need about 10 models to cover the market. They are up to 7 (S,3,X,Y, CT, Roadster, $25K) if you leave out the Semi. Personally think they need a small CT for markets outside NA, a van, and maybe a CT based SUV.
OT OT OTEh, it's closer to 3 acres per MWdc for fixed tilt.
I don't think that is true. Their inventory, and days on hand, is increase every quarter. They started offering R1 leases because they weren't able to sell enough of them at $80k+. And even at that they are losing tons of money. I think they are close to saturation on the R1s, just like Tesla is close to saturation on the Model S/X. Rivian can expand to other markets, but that is expensive and the opposite of what they need to be doing now. (Selling a higher volume of vehicles you lose money on doesn't help.) Just like I think that right now they need to concentrate on one smaller profitable vehicle, but yet they announced two. They continue to bite off more than I think they can chew.Rivian does not lack buyers. The R1S outsells model X in the U.S. The problem they have is absolutely horrible gross margin.
The problem with higher voltage, is that you need more cell monitoring chips and there is no way aroundIt still makes sense for small vehicles when moving to higher voltage and also 48V can produce more consistency and simplicity in manufacturing process. If it does not reduce costs, including allowing more Supercharger throughput, they probably will not do it. Anyway, my disagree was based on making a generic assumption that status quo remains. That is never a good assumption with Tesla.
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