Carl Raymond
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I think fact checking is Elon
It’s a neat trick how he runs commentary on his own live earnings calls.
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I think fact checking is Elon
The always FUDdy Auto Motor Sport says that Tesla has already clocked a hand-stopped time 20 seconds faster than the Taycan during the manufacturer sessions:
Tesla-Attacke auf der Nordschleife: 20 Sekunden schneller als der Taycan?
They insinuate that it's the Plaid version.
Not at 61 cents/kWh the way my workplace charged.Workplace charging that was smart (utility controlled) could solve many problems. Most days you would not need much so utility could throttle at worst times and dump excess solar at others.
They don't say it's a time which they got from Tesla. There is some room for interpretation but I read this as:
Unser Beobachter meldet eine handgestoppte Rundenzeit von 7:23 Minuten => Our observer reports a hand stopped lap time of 7:23 minutes. This means in my opinion he was there and stopped the time while he saw the car passing throuh the same spot twice.
Only if you don't change the tires to tires that have the correct tread compounds for that temperature range. Of course, Tesla may not have a selection of tires to be able to do this the way F1 racers do.Colder track surface also has less grip I believe.
Quote from the article : "Together with the Tesla a container from America arrived at the ring. Its content: a large diesel engine. This generates the power to charge the Model S. Since it is noisy day and night, it has already attracted the annoyance of the residents."The always FUDdy Auto Motor Sport says that Tesla has already clocked a hand-stopped time 20 seconds faster than the Taycan during the manufacturer sessions:
Tesla-Attacke auf der Nordschleife: 20 Sekunden schneller als der Taycan?
They insinuate that it's the Plaid version.
OK, so quick update on the Nürburgring situation.
1, a Reddit user drew my attention to the fact, that the Taycan record is nowhere to be found on the track's official site. So I emailed them and got the answer yesterday:
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As I am contributor to a local EV news site, so I wrote a piece on this. Not really dissing Porsche, just stating that - like Tesla's Laguna Seca lap time - there is no official record. You can't imagine the flame war that has started in comments with Porsche apologists...
2, German Auto Motor & Sport - probably the biggest German car magazine - says, that they had a guy at the track during Tesla's tests and they timed it at 7:23, or 19 seconds below the Taycan lap time.
Quote from the article : "Together with the Tesla a container from America arrived at the ring. Its content: a large diesel engine. This generates the power to charge the Model S. Since it is noisy day and night, it has already attracted the annoyance of the residents."
The irony strikes me...
Then why do they ALWAYS happen with 2 or 3 weeks left in the quarter?
And the options they are given out for free....was actually charging for it the wrong value? Will they continue to give one option for free after September 30th?
"as we sometimes get prices of some variants wrong"
I was driving from the southern Netherlands to Belgium this morning and in half an hour time I saw 4 trailers packed with Model 3 heading the other way. I also overtook 2 empty trailers going in the other direction
Or, more correctly, a tourist time slot was closed to make room for that Tesla slot.Was probably true at that time - the big lie was the claim that Tesla couldn't possibly get track time, because the racing calendar is full for this year.
Then for September 21 an entirely new slot was opened, apparently for Tesla.
The unexpected magic of Nürburgring officials having control over the schedule of an only partially utilized, profit oriented racing track. A shocking development that no fair journalist covering Tesla could possibly have anticipated!
Acceleration times for an already rolling vehicle are sometimes slightly higher than the zero to target speed time would indicate, between time spent applying the accelerator, and (for multi-speed gearboxes) time either spent downshifting, or performance lost from not downshifting because it would be slower to downshift.Yes, Porsche stated 0-100km/h in 2.8 seconds. 0-200km/h in 9.8 seconds. Simple math tells us that 100-200km/h takes 9.8 (0-200) - 2.8 (0-100) = 7 seconds (100-200)
We now know that there's claims of Plaid reaching a hand-timed 7:23, but this gets to an interesting point.One thing where I believe the Tesla Plaid will clearly be superior to the Taycan is top speed: the Taycan crawls up to its 259 kmh maximum speed and spends about 10 seconds coasting at full speed, full throttle - average speed in that section is closer to 255 kmh.
If the Plaid can reach say 300 kmh (186 mph) average speed in that section, then it would take that straight line ~18% faster, shaving off 1.8 seconds from the lap time compared to the Taycan in that section alone.
Based on all these videos I fully expect the Plaid to beat the Taycan on the Nürburgring with a new 7:3x-ish record lap time - while the Raven could possibly get a lap time somewhere between the Taycan's 7:42 and the not-yet-embarrasing psychological ceiling of 7:59 - barring technical difficulties and bad weather.
So, that alone wouldn't have been a problem as there is a separate record for prototypes, but yeah it was rather misleading to imply this was a production car.Already known, but thanks for checking again
The Taycan was also pre-production (the "record" was "set" before the official production start date given out by Porsche), stripped and with a roll-cage, and on non-stock, unnamed "summer tires" (you can only configure the vehicle with all-seasons) (Porsche gave out deliberately misleading wording, stating that it was on "production 21-inch wheels wrapped in summer tires" - the wheels are indeed stock (the 21" 'Mission E' wheels), but the tires are not available stock).
Even these special use cases can likely be met with used vehicles. It will be an awfully long time before there are insufficient numbers of used ICE vehicles available to cover specific needs. And by the time there is not, EVs will be so advanced and specialized that I won't be a problem.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
EXACTLY.
Anyone buying a new Lexus/BMW/MBZ, etc., without a very specific use case (such as living in a very remote yurt with no electricity), is PART OF THE PROBLEM.
Anyone not paying attention to climate change is part of the problem.There are very nice people that don’t live on the internet and know nothing about Tesla... so they go ahead and buy what they already know. Believe me, not everyone uses Twitter and knows what an Elon Musk is. How are they part of the problem? They will buy an EV when their neighbors buy one though
Pretty sure? I once had a Ferrari 308GT4 and felt slightly déclassé whenever we visited Monte Carlo. OTOH, Monaco is officially a protectorate of France so lacks some me of the legitimacy of Slovenia, maybe...I'm pretty sure Monaco beats them in that metric.
In Atlanta, I have driven by apartment complexes that advertise in big signs and banners that they have EV charging. Obviously potential tenants are asking about this, and for now this can be a significant differentiator in a competitive rental market.What's the incentive for any apartment complex to offer any amenities at all? Why have a pool or a fitness center or the million other amenities that aren't absolutely necessary?
If a landlord wants good tenants, they should install amenities that target their demographic's situation.
Maybe states should just enact legislation requiring it for new apartment complex construction.