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In the real world, it will never achieve that sort of perfect-mirror look that you get from CG renderings. Look at how cheap the test vehicle looks. It'll look better once it's pressurized, but never like the renderings. And there's a good chance that it will crash or explode.

Here's what it actually looks like:

The top doesn't even match the bottom - the top has a "wrinkled mirror" finish while the bottom is matte and grimy. Initially people thought SpaceX was building a water tower because they couldn't believe that that thing was actually supposed to be a rocket.

Don't expect any sort of "quality dividends" to rub off on Tesla from that thing.

For the Model 3 ramp up, speed was of the essence. It is very likely the same here.

The "hopper" will not have to enter an atmosphere at blistering speed or anything like that. Rather, it is basically a mass simulator (with both a relevant center and distribution of mass) allowing SpaceX to test their propulsive landing.

So it makes sense that they just welded together a bunch of steel plates - not even within the confines of a tent but in open air no less - just so they can hover and land with their raptor engines as soon as possible.

I think for the individuals who have some clue regarding the task at hand, a successful flight with this contraption will actually be impressive. While I cannot really claim to be in this category, I know I will be.
 
I don't understand why Tesla decided to close the old warehouse which was at a lower interest (1 to 1.2% premium on LIBOR) instead of just amending the existing one? Or was that not a Tesla decision. So why did it then agree? What better term did it get in exchange for the interest increase?
Have a look at David Tayar’s tweets. He is a subject matter expert

David Tayar on Twitter
 
Bloomberg's 'estimate' jumped from 147k to 155k on the day of the deliveries. The day the two screenshots were taken can be seen in the graph (1/2/19), the local time is on the top of the picture, in Carsonnight's time zone, PST.

What makes their deceit harder to detect is that they don't specifically print their quarterly prediction (!), they print only the absolute number of Model 3's made so far. 147k corresponds to Q4 production of ~53k, 155k corresponds to Q4 production of 61k.

We need is a Bloomberg tracker tracker, to better document their fraud, which notes their prediction for the quarter on a daily basis and creates a verifiable track record. Are there snapshots of the Bloomberg tracker in the Wayback Machine perhaps?

This 1984'ish behaviour seems suitable for stock price manipulation - and hardly for anything else.

So would this not be something for the SEC to investigate ?
(Yes, I know this not-even-a-paper-tiger is actually shut down for the time being).
 
Just picture all of the times in the past year he stat there glued to his computer screen, brushing his teeth, selling assets worth real money - stocks, in-the-money-calls, etc in growing companies in a booming economy, in order to get the money to buy puts on Tesla, thinking, "This time... THIS time, Fraud Boy is going down for sure! I can feel it! Tesla will hit zero within three months."

On the topic of obsessive short sellers, you can still pick up four brand-new 4k monitors from this bankrupt TSLA-short seller:
Fed Zeppelin on Twitter
- they are down to 700$ now.

But unlike their current owner, I guess you are too smart to mistake information for insight.
 
He's the sort of person you'd feel bad for except that he's also - completely unrelated to Tesla - such a horrible person. For example, when it comes to tweeting, he often takes the time to mix some sexism into his TSLAQ rants and hard-right politics.

Right. What upsets me about Mark BS, is that as a fund manager his poor judgement will bankrupt people who trusted him, while he quite possibly will able to play his assets into avoiding a personal bankruptcy.

Btw, I am trying to get blocked from his twitter account, not there yet.
 
I speak from China, our president cannot afford a recession (maybe more than Trump). Ever since the two met at G20, it looks a secured deal to me.

I disagree: [from Wikipedia.org]

Xi Jinping is "general secretary of the Communist Party of China (CPC),[4] president of the People's Republic of China,[5] and chairman of the Central Military Commission.[6] Often described as China's "paramount leader", in 2016 the CPC officially gave him the title of "core leader"."

"Said to be one of the most powerful leaders in modern Chinese history, Xi's political thoughts have been written into the party and state constitutions, and under his leadership, the latter was amended to abolish term limits for the presidency.[19] In 2018, Forbes ranked him as the most powerful and influential person in the world, dethroning Russian President Vladimir Putin who held the accolade for five consecutive years.[20][21][22]"

Vladimir Putin the ex-KGB counterintelligence agent who ran the Russian federation successor to the KGB, FSB loves the destabilizing influence of IOTUS Trump [I = Idiot] in the White House.

Unless Xi strokes Trump's pathetic ego which I find unlikely, there may, unfortunately, be no deal. "The Art of the No Deal" - Trump, 2019. :mad:
 
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There is some doubt that this was actually AP expressed in the comments. I offer no take myself.

What I don't understand about this video, is that it purports to show the vehicle losing traction due to black ice.

But there is plenty of slush and water visible (also evident from the running wipers and the mist trailing the car in front), so I have a hard time believing that description.

Upon seeing the road, my first thought was that the tires are of an incorrect type for the driving conditions.
 
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How do Millenials decide which smartphone to buy? By reading reviews and spending hours reading forums (like this) to find out about user experiences and ask questions. Consumer reports will probably indirectly affect this as it will no doubt be referenced somewhere, by someone. Even if not viewed directly. In this day and age and way of absorbing information CR is still a tool, but a far less vital one.

I doubt it.

CR was a tool to subscribers and their circle of friends.

Now it spreads through the internet.

There is a high correlation between what CR says about reliability and what the consensus is among influencers and message boards.
 
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What I don't understand about this video, is that it purports to show the vehicle losing traction due to black ice.

But there is plenty of slush and water visible (also evident from the running wipers and the mist trailing the car in front), so I have a hard time believing that description.

Upon seeing the road, my first thought was that the tires are of an incorrect type for the driving conditions.
Risk of aquaplaning is a lot higher when there's slush. Most probably what happened here.
 
I doubt it.

CR was a tool to subscribers and their circle of friends.

Now it spreads through the internet.

There is a high correlation between what CR says about reliability and what the consensus is among influencers and message boards.

Yes, that's what I meant by having an indirect influence. Even if not used as a direct reference it certainly still influences the discussions and thoughts about a product. But I don't think it would be missed if it closed down tomorrow (no offence to those whom like CR). What does CR say about my current car, for example? The Renault ZOE? Yes, that's a rhetorical question. And I chose this car because of positive reviews, user experiences and a test drive.

Here in the UK we've got our own version of CR called Which? This used to be the go-to source for buying advice. It's now merely an extra source of information. There are many often more detailed specialist sources which will be used in preference. The clout and influence it once had greatly diminished.
 
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there is something wrong with the video on 0:13. something is cut out. maybe someone wants again Elon to share it on twitter and then say its fake stuff by Elon

Judging from the positions of the other cars, the two merged clips are almost certainly _not_ from two separate passes of the same stretch of road.

During the time missing from between the two clips the Tesla moves close to two full periods of the white stripes to its right.

The number of missing frames corresponds quite accurately to twelve frames in the first clip (where the speed can be assumed to be constant).

The running clock burned into the video is a bit strange, the fastest running digits wrap around to 00 after 29.
So they are hardly centi-seconds. They are also not incrementing by one, which they would have if they were counting the frames (i.e. 30 frames per second). But they nevertheless seem to be counting frames, since there are 30 frames for each advance of the second least significant pair of digits (which seem to be counting the seconds).

So the missing time is about 12 frames / 30 frames/second = 0.4 second.

So the video lacks a section corresponding to two full segments of the white stripes to the Tesla's right corresponding to 12 frames (probably 0.4 s), while the in-video clock advances as if no frames are missing.

This could maybe be explained by the recording camera being unable to record while copying data from one buffer to another (e.g. memory to SD-card).

So to me it seems less likely that the video has been tampered with and more likely that the video-recording software has some issues.

Maybe the video-recording is simply done with Tesla software, which is frequently deemed ripe for improving?

PS. Edited my speculation about the in-video frame-counter.
 
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Here in the UK we've got our own version of CR called Which? This used to be the go-to source for buying advice. It's now merely an extra source of information. There are many often more detailed specialist sources which will be used in preference. The clout and influence it once had greatly diminished.
Yes whilst not always agreeing with them (on cars at least). Their biggest plus is trust, something almost no one else has. Priceless in this day and age.
 
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The Falcon is airborne, presumably on the way to Shanghai for the GF3 ground breaking

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The Falcon is airborne, presumably on the way to Shanghai for the GF3 ground breaking

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That precisely conforms to the Shanghai Municipal government statements of last month. Since the ground has been purportedly prepared and at least one largish construction contract has been awarded and begun, we only need to see where the terminus of that flight will be.

BTW, despite the name of the owner this aircraft is a US Georgia-built Gulfstream 650ER which replaced his previous Falcon 900B. Logically, at least, the replacement happened in order to gain the extra range since the G650 ER is about 7500nm and the Falcon 900B is a little less than 4000 nm. Thus, China non-stop needs more range!