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It could be that if trump is doubling down on the wall he cant fight equally on all fronts. maybe he is making a fuss over the wall because he knows some agreement is coming with china and can switch focus?
Maybe wishful thinking
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It could be that if trump is doubling down on the wall he cant fight equally on all fronts. maybe he is making a fuss over the wall because he knows some agreement is coming with china and can switch focus?
Maybe wishful thinking
Excuse me, but why are you acting like I didn't also write:
I got that their automated reminder system is buggy and not correlated with what's actually going on at a given store or service centre, but that's not exactly news. Also some service centres and stores haven't been able to keep up with hiring vs. matching the volume they're dealing with, but again, that's not exactly news.
One can observe that Tesla needs to improve its customer service to stop people like him from falling through the cracks while simultaneously observing that it's weird AF to buy a used car sight-unseen, not even with photos, saying "I'll just fix any cosmetic issues it has", and then when you find out it has curb rash, throwing a fit about that and demanding it be fixed.
"Not I!" said the Karen
I was arguing on the same side as you in this regard. 
mutle
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Seeing news that "Chinese premier meets with Tesla's Musk as trade talks end" on Twitter. No real articles with details yet.
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Yeah, reports are that trade talks have completed and the outcome will be announced soon. If so, expect volatility (good or bad).
mutle
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Nightshifter
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Here is the catalysator, just in the wrong direction:
"Tesla warns 'self-driving package' buyers that activation is 'very far away' due to regulations."
Especially "very far" here in the EU. Sooner in the US.
Another Fred Lambert Story on Electrek.
Tesla warns ‘self-driving package’ buyers that activation is ‘very far away’ due to regulations
"Tesla warns 'self-driving package' buyers that activation is 'very far away' due to regulations."
Especially "very far" here in the EU. Sooner in the US.
Another Fred Lambert Story on Electrek.
Tesla warns ‘self-driving package’ buyers that activation is ‘very far away’ due to regulations
Fact Checking
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Nice:
Chinese premier meets with Tesla's Musk as trade talks end
Posted on Wednesday, January 9th, 2019 By The Associated Press
BEIJING (AP) — 8:00 p.m.
China's top economic official, Premier Li Keqiang, has met with the CEO of electric car brand Tesla Inc., Elon Musk.
Musk and other businessmen met with Li on Wednesday in Beijing at the Great Hall of the People.
Tesla broke ground this week in Shanghai on its first factory outside the United States. Musk says production of Tesla's Model 3 will start late this year.
Li told Musk he hoped Tesla can become an "in-depth participant in China's opening and a promoter of the stability of Chinese-U.S. relations."
Fred and his hit-pieces, creating negative news for nothing...
Fact Checking
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BTW., here's Premier Li Keqiang's educational background:
"He earned a PhD in economics in 1995, and the prominent economist Li Yining (no relation) was his doctoral advisor. His doctoral dissertation was awarded the Sun Yefang Prize, China's highest prize in economics."
China's leadership is highly technocratic.
Here's a random anecdote about Premier Li, from 3 years ago:
Premier Li critiques student's thesis at Peking University|Society|chinadaily.com.cn
"Your topic is too broad," Chinese Premier Li Keqiang said to a Peking University student upon learning that his thesis title was "The Role of General Transfer Payments in Local Public Spending." Premier Li suggested that the student choose a narrower topic.
Li chatted with students in the university's cafeteria about a number of subjects, including food prices at the canteen, student grants and oil production.
"Great undertakings have small beginnings," Premier Li told the students. "It is like the food we eat; whether a dish is good or bad comes down to the details."
"Your topic is too broad," Chinese Premier Li Keqiang said to a Peking University student upon learning that his thesis title was "The Role of General Transfer Payments in Local Public Spending." Premier Li suggested that the student choose a narrower topic.
Li chatted with students in the university's cafeteria about a number of subjects, including food prices at the canteen, student grants and oil production.
"Great undertakings have small beginnings," Premier Li told the students. "It is like the food we eat; whether a dish is good or bad comes down to the details."
If he had any chance to chat with Elon I suspect they got along very well.
Causalien
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I always prefer to rip the band-aid off rapidly so the recovery can begin sooner. Sure it hurt as hell. It's actually interesting to know that some people prefer the slow method and see it as a positive.
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The fact that China is clearly seeing Tesla as such a priority, and that they perceive Elon and his company as an important part of US-China trade relations should drive yet another nail into the coffin of the "Elon is a Fraud / GF3 is a Fraud / Tesla is a Fraud" short thesis.
There is a new short thesis looking to be spun, "China is having its way with Tesla", "Musk goes behind USA back on trade negotiations, and meets Chinese government alone". " Tesla sharing US secrets with China "... as we know nothing has to be true, just spin a headline and then say something like secrets to musk favour cake? It amazes me the headlines the media can get away with without finding them self in court for market manipulation
If Trumps trade comes off negative and tesla strikes a positive Chinese trade deal, Trump may see it as a personal attack!
It may not be positive, but it seemed factual and the editorial part was reasonable.
Tesla has delisted the FSD option. New buyers, esp overseas, may not be aware of the time frame to get FSD. Others have advocated that Tesla shouldn't have been offering it on the past. Tesla will need to swap the AP computers on all FSD purchases, that is easier to mange (at least expectation wise) if people haven't prepaid.
Fact Checking
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OT:
That's a myth. The fact is that:
Nor is the analogy even remotely accurate: the better analogy for Brexit would be for example to unilaterally take the Netflix or Spotify apps out of the iOS single market. It sure won't increase Netflix and Spotify sales and revenue, right?
(And that would be a more justified move, because the iOS tax is 30% of revenue - while the 'EU tax' is only 1% of revenue (GDP), a good deal of which is recycled back into the UK.)
Anyway, March 29 is only 2.5 months away, so we'll all see the negative effects of Brexit.
That's a myth. The fact is that:
- Ripping off the band-aid from a serious or partially healed wound can cause injuries, cause infection, prolong healing and cause extra scabbing.
- The pain is actually not mandatory. The best method to remove the band-aid is pain-free, i.e. when removing a band-aid from a child do it with some planning and intelligence applied: medical alcohol will dissolve the adhesive and will also help disinfect, but simply taking a warm bath will also weaken the adhesive and the band-aid will peel off.
Nor is the analogy even remotely accurate: the better analogy for Brexit would be for example to unilaterally take the Netflix or Spotify apps out of the iOS single market. It sure won't increase Netflix and Spotify sales and revenue, right?
(And that would be a more justified move, because the iOS tax is 30% of revenue - while the 'EU tax' is only 1% of revenue (GDP), a good deal of which is recycled back into the UK.)
Anyway, March 29 is only 2.5 months away, so we'll all see the negative effects of Brexit.
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I just tweeted: "The CEO of Tesla is a more worthy representative of the USA than the current POTUS."
TicToc by Bloomberg on Twitter
TicToc by Bloomberg on Twitter
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- It's misleading: Tesla sales staff had been anti-selling the FSD option for years and the take-rate had been very low all along.
- It's a necessity to downplay the FSD option: a customer buying FSD must be absolutely clear that the timing is uncertain. Tesla sales staff must anti-sell the FSD option, otherwise they'd be exposed to false advertising charges and generally would piss off customers unnecessarily. The honesty of the Tesla sales experience extends to the FSD option, and that's good.
- It's also immaterial what Tesla sales staff says: it's very unlikely that they have some special channel of communications to the Autopilot group, being updated about FSD progress, right? They'll be notified of FSD capabilities the moment Tesla goes official with their first set of FSD features. In fact Fred will probably receive leaked FSD plans way before Tesla sales staff is informed ...
- Yet selecting FSD is a valid way to future-proof your Tesla and increase resale value. We don't know how much the HW3 upgrade is going to cost.
- Buying FSD is also a valid way to help Tesla - with the future-proofing a small bonus. Anecdotally a number of TMC members indicated that they bought the FSD option for such reasons.
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anthonyj
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God damn it Fred, how many puts did he buy
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