That's simply not fair. The state, along with almost every other official in charge of anything health related, is trying to figure this whole situation out. Pardon them if they can't give you a definitive date as to when this pandemic will end or be controlled to the point of getting back to anything resembling "normal". It's going in stages ... maybe they need to see how the first stage works out before deciding to move further? That just seems responsible to me.
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That's simply not fair. The state, along with almost every other official in charge of anything health related, is trying to figure this whole situation out. Pardon them if they can't give you a definitive date as to when this pandemic will end or be controlled to the point of getting back to anything resembling "normal". It's going in stages ... maybe they need to see how the first stage works out before deciding to move further? That just seems responsible to me.
I’m buying way more shares on this weakness If we get any which I don’t think we will. Tesla is about as American of a company as it gets. This will draw all sorts of new types of folks to buy Tesla given what they stand for. This press is also worth so much compared to buying 30 second spots on cable tv. LOL LOL
How about email or mail responses? I have Twitter account but never post anything. Can I email? Post email address too please
One condition Alameda County has set is for they to be able to conduct 200 tests per 100,000 people. Today Alameda can test 30 per 100k. How is Alameda going to do a nearly 7x improvement in about 3 weeks. What is the reaction going to be if Alameda says they can't open because the county can only do 50 per 100k a day 3 weeks from now?
Alameda needs to fire those who have failed in their tasks and get some people in that can get their county jobs done.
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Ameliorate
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The contact form is an email type service! - http://www.acphd.org/contact-acphd/contact-form.aspx
Oh, I did want to mention, just because it's not announced to us, Tesla may have already negotiated a deal with Texas, re new factory. For those saying they just lost their negotiating power.
Mo City
Active Member
If Newsom is worth a plugged nickel, he's already been in contact with Elon and the county and will settle this over the weekend. Freemont will open no later than May 18.
If the gov is above average, he'll take a back seat when the news is announced and let the county save face.
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Reductionist
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I think it's likely that the headquarters moving is a done deal. My comments were with regard to the Fremont plant, which has billions of dollars worth of production lines installed that would be difficult to move efficiently. If Alameda backs down quickly, I dont't think they will move existing manufacturing capacity away from Fremont, but time will tell i guess...
X Fan
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I would think your comment was relevant if the Oakland Raiders made and innovated things that could be exported and hired thousands of well-paid workers. But I'm not sure creating traffic jams, pollution and making popcorn and hotdogs, pretzels and selling $10 crappy beer qualifies. I say, good riddance!
You feel that way about the Seahawks, Sounders, SuperSonics, Mariners, Univ of Washington?
Collectively, they provide a huge tax base and bring joy to many residents in the Seattle area (btw: I lived there in the late 70’s).
Businesses abandoning a marketplace for another location represent a loss....
Krugerrand
Meow
Whether you think his outburst is warranted or not, the fact is: he’s had it. Whether you think a few more weeks of shutdown is an issue for Tesla or not is irrelevant. The fact is: he’s over it.
Now you need to take that information and decide if he means it or is talking out his ear.
I’ve been paying attention and I believe he’s going to do it. It won’t happen overnight, but I can easily believe Fremont will wind down to nothing within 5 years’ time frame.
Completely agree. Tesla has an effective plan to mitigate COVID issues that has provably worked elsewhere and they have clearly been in unproductive discussions with the local government for some time.
Regulatory shopping is the prudent course of action for any company. Apple does it with its double Dutch Irish tax scheme and manufacturers have been outsourcing (which is just another word for regulatory shopping) for half a century.
Given the local government is effectively stopping Tesla from enacting its core business for an unknown period of time, the sagacious course of action is to reallocate resources to minimise government risk.
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“They are trying to figure it out” May have been the case 6 weeks back, but not anymore. Now they are just punting the decision to future date. And about wanting to see effect of stage 1 before proceeding, someone here mentioned 14 days or even 4-6 months as 14 days is not enough to see impact on infection rate. So, how long exactly after the florists open do we wait? Another 2 weeks, or 4 weeks or 6 weeks? The county officials overstepped their authority and now CA suffers the consequences. I an furious as a native Californian to lose Tesla because of this stupidity from the county and lack of backbone from the Governer.
feigen66
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I found it quite amusing the same people cursing Elon as billionaires out of touch and childish while stating people with no income could wait a few more weeks.
Maybe I should invite you to food bank. People are eating cast off food now, and damn, we should feel proud about flattening the curve.
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StealthP3D
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Absolutely! I wish they didn't suck up so much tax revenue and cause so many traffic jams. Absolutely ridiculous!
It's time for the board to fire Elon Musk.
Elon already kind of home schools his kids and some other SpaceX techs’ kids from what I understand so Texas wouldn’t be a problem for him. Now for the rest of his line workers’ families, not the same.
Agreed. Over the next few years, Fremont will be not particularly important to Tesla (similar to how the S and X aren't as important to Tesla as they were in the early years.) It still might be where they test out new types of production because the engineers are close by, but it won't be a 500K car per year factory anymore.
mblakele
FSD Beta (99)
This is a few days old, but I don't think it's been posted. Includes details of new safety measures at the Nevada GF.
Tesla Gigafactory to reopen May 4th
Tesla Gigafactory to reopen May 4th
Tesla's board of directors learned late Thursday the Gigafactory in Sparks is scheduled to reopen May 4, said President and CEO of the Economic Development Authority of Western Nevada, Mike Kazmierski.
Some of the new guidelines put in place to keep workers safe and to adhear to the safety regulations of organizations like OSHA include:
Masks will be required in some workstations to supplement social distancing protocols and anyone may use face coverings voluntarily. Employees will also have access to gloves in PPE vending machines for normal work needs and disposable gloves will be available across production areas in the cafe.
Employees will be instructed to work within social distancing protocols and teams are encouraged to take additional breaks to stagger work in order to both comply with social distancing protocols and to complete frequent multi-day disinfecting of high-touch work stations.
Tesla will use temperature screening on workers coming into the factory as a measure to prevent the spread of COVID-19. Gigafactory temperature takers will use an AOJ-20F Infrared Thermometer, which is a medical non-contact thermometer to accomplish this task. If an employee's temperature measures greater than 100.4 he or she will be asked to return home.
If there is a confirmed COVID-19 case at Tesla, the Company's protocol is to interview the individual, investigate their whereabouts and speak with their managers to determine the best of their ability who had contact with the individual at work. Tesla representatives will speak with all individuals who had direct and extended contact, and those individuals will be asked to self-quarantine to watch for symptoms.
Tesla's janitorial team is disinfecting door handles and push bars before and after shift changes, as well as every hour at the main facility entrances. When employees enter the building, hand sanitizer and surface sanitizer wipes are provided for employees. There are also surface sanitizer wipes for additional elective use throughout the facility.
Transportation shuttles are capped at 30 percent of maximum capacity so employees are able to sit greater than six feet apart from one another.
For workstations and tasks with employees less than six feet apart, Tesla engineering teams have built workstation partitions to protect operators from COVID-19. Where barriers couldn't be erected quickly, workstations were de-staffed and production line outputs reduced or paused.
Additionally, there is now only online ordering for Cafe food services, partitions have been installed at IT helpdesks, and small conference rooms are closed.
Some of the new guidelines put in place to keep workers safe and to adhear to the safety regulations of organizations like OSHA include:
Masks will be required in some workstations to supplement social distancing protocols and anyone may use face coverings voluntarily. Employees will also have access to gloves in PPE vending machines for normal work needs and disposable gloves will be available across production areas in the cafe.
Employees will be instructed to work within social distancing protocols and teams are encouraged to take additional breaks to stagger work in order to both comply with social distancing protocols and to complete frequent multi-day disinfecting of high-touch work stations.
Tesla will use temperature screening on workers coming into the factory as a measure to prevent the spread of COVID-19. Gigafactory temperature takers will use an AOJ-20F Infrared Thermometer, which is a medical non-contact thermometer to accomplish this task. If an employee's temperature measures greater than 100.4 he or she will be asked to return home.
If there is a confirmed COVID-19 case at Tesla, the Company's protocol is to interview the individual, investigate their whereabouts and speak with their managers to determine the best of their ability who had contact with the individual at work. Tesla representatives will speak with all individuals who had direct and extended contact, and those individuals will be asked to self-quarantine to watch for symptoms.
Tesla's janitorial team is disinfecting door handles and push bars before and after shift changes, as well as every hour at the main facility entrances. When employees enter the building, hand sanitizer and surface sanitizer wipes are provided for employees. There are also surface sanitizer wipes for additional elective use throughout the facility.
Transportation shuttles are capped at 30 percent of maximum capacity so employees are able to sit greater than six feet apart from one another.
For workstations and tasks with employees less than six feet apart, Tesla engineering teams have built workstation partitions to protect operators from COVID-19. Where barriers couldn't be erected quickly, workstations were de-staffed and production line outputs reduced or paused.
Additionally, there is now only online ordering for Cafe food services, partitions have been installed at IT helpdesks, and small conference rooms are closed.
The point is that we don't know that it's only a few more weeks. The "prudent" course of action as determined by the local government could be until COVID no longer exists for all we know.
mblakele
FSD Beta (99)
As you can clearly see, this is way more dangerous than going into a clothing store, which are permitted to reopen in Alameda
It's really nice to see when policy is informed by rational consideration of the risks and benefits involved
Agree with the absurdity, but I don't think Alameda County is allowing clothing stores to open at all just yet. Maybe around 18 May, for curbside pickup only. This risks going a bit off-topic, but I think it's important to address the idea that Alameda County is singling out Tesla. AFAICT they're being fairly strict across the board.
http://www.acphd.org/media/574525/press-release-2020.05.07.pdf
[...] regional Health Orders that took effect May 4 are still in effect. These orders – in Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, San Francisco, San Mateo and Santa Clara counties and the City of Berkeley – loosen restrictions on construction as well as outdoor activities and businesses. The Bay Area orders do not currently permit curbside pickup from non-essential, non-outdoor businesses, and that is not allowed to begin on Friday, May 8.
You don't need to post on twitter. Just look at the tweet and click the link in it, which takes you to the county enquiry submission form. 30 seconds.
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