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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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MTL_HABS1909
Active Member
Of course it’s just below investment grade. Must be because of all that debt
None whatsoever thank you very muchIf it makes you feel better, it’s too cold and rainy to try it out.
I wonder how HR is doing in Austin. Isn't a big metro region compared to the Bay Area (7.5 vs 2.2 mln). Lots of housing issues themselves in Austin (of course it is notorious in CA). Ramping to 1.5ml units will require a considerable workforce.
Congrats!
Got one almost a year ago, mostly 200-300 Mpbs down, 30-50ish up. Unfortunately, each day it had 5-15 minutes of no service, which was a deal-breaker for WFH and $TSLA ticker watching. Returned and back to regular fiber ISP.
If not yet, go to check out Reddit starlink sub for up to date news and rumors, and particularly installation tips.
Thanks. Will end this discussion here. Getting hairy eyeball from the mods.
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
Nearly investment grade now...one upgrade away, instead of two it seems.
Moodys had a mental lapse and upgraded two notches at once. Their overlord JPM is gonna be pissed that they could have stretched out the road to investment grade by at least another quarter of two
BrownOuttaSpec
Active Member
From the official article:
FACTORS THAT COULD LEAD TO AN UPGRADE OR DOWNGRADE OF THE RATINGS
The ratings could be upgraded if Tesla successfully expands its global footprint, maintains a strong competitive global presence as other automakers offer an increasing number of battery electric models, and improves its product breadth.
Tesla sells vehicles, solar, battery, charging equipment, clothing, umbrellas, tequila and even belt buckles and whistles.... what other product breadth do they need to improve upon??
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
Um, Etsy sells all that stuff.....plus oven mitts.
I wonder if this is just in time so that they can upgrade again after the 2021 Q4 results are reported. The upgrade criteria are:
- If Tesla successfully expands its global footprint, maintains a strong competitive global presence as other automakers offer an increasing number of battery electric models, and improves its product breadth.
- Tesla's ability to sustain an EBITA margin of at least 7% (measured excluding the contribution from emission credits), and a consistent, prudent financial policy are also important considerations for higher ratings.
- Further, Tesla will need to maintain very good liquidity, including ample cash and considerable committed availability under its revolving credit facility.
And don't forget that their current "product breadth" includes other things that other OEMs tend not to make themselves. Like seats, battery cells/packs, motors, inference chips, training chips, etc...
StealthP3D
Well-Known Member
It seems more likely they are upgrading now so they can justify NOT upgrading based on the strength of Q4 earnings!
I set a limit buy order at 850 as the stock dropped below 900 and went to sleep (Asia). Stunned to wake up this morning to see it bottomed out at just over 851 but managed to scratch and claw its way back to 930 at close. TSLA. Rarely a dull moment!
Nasdaq Days Like This Once Were Common. During the Dot-Com Crash
That was some ride U.S. stocks just took.
www.bloomberg.com
Pay attention, this kind of volatility hasn't been seen since 2001. Yeah, during THAT.
Stay frosty, play your cards close to the chest, and don't overextend on margin. Hedge if you are not in a good position because you are already overextended on margin.
I feel like I lost way more money and regained and faster in one day last year during the first 10 year induced crash.Nasdaq Days Like This Once Were Common. During the Dot-Com Crash
That was some ride U.S. stocks just took.
Pay attention, this kind of volatility hasn't been seen since 2001. Yeah, during THAT.
Stay frosty, play your cards close to the chest, and don't overextend on margin. Hedge if you are not in a good position because you are already overextended on margin.
That’s cause you live in Florida where time space and reason operate in ways the rest of the world doesn’t understand.
Hahaha.
Maybe the NDX wasn't so violent that day. I remember losing a mil and gaining a mil in one day. Today was like -400 +400
Great news with the Moodys upgrade. Even though it’s just a step, and old metric, and dumb, and jaded, it’s good for TSLA. Perhaps soon this will unleash a whole slew of pension funds with their wallets open.
Good luck tmrw everyone!
Good luck tmrw everyone!
CLK350
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Victories against Tesla's enemies who fund the FUD directly or indirectly sometimes get noticed.
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The climate victories of 2021 that put fossil fuels in check
From local activism to shareholder rebellions, here’s what climate advocates accomplished over the last year.
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