We have a popular saying in The Netherlands that pretty much sums it all up:
AfterwardsIn hindsight you can look at the cow's ass.
My goodness, I must have been sleeping to miss this funny language opportunity. FTFM.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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My goodness, I must have been sleeping to miss this funny language opportunity. FTFM.
Have you ever driven trough one? The very common turn into a crossing road is more demanding on wheel manouvers than a roundabout. (90 vs 30 degrees from a straight line) And both are quite simple really if you are an experienced driver. I see no issues here.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
【JULY.29.2022】This week's update Revamped Phase II capacity boosted \4K # 448 | Wu Wa (Giga Shanghai drone vid)
No worries. You shouldn't ____ ants. (Did I use that one correctly?)
(Hope I didn't trigger lafrisbee with that Dutch idiom)
Ah, no, no, no.
Please, stop misleading those on this thread--we deserve better.
The fossil fuel industry DOES need to be vilified for they are evil, perpetuating misinformation re: climate change for decades so as to line their pockets at the expense of our only planet's future.
Are you not familiar with these facts?
Inside Exxon’s playbook
How America's biggest oil company continues to oppose action on climate change
unearthed.greenpeace.org
And:
ERCOT Announces Electricity Market Redesign, Warns Of More Energy Conservation Requests
The market redesign is ongoing, and the grid operator has already made some changes to improve reliability. Nonetheless, officials warn Texans to expect more energy conservation requests in the coming weeks as temperatures rise.
www.tpr.org
Key quote:
Earlier this month — about two weeks after receiving a $1 million donation from a natural gas executive whose company made more than $2 billion during the winter storm — [Texas] Gov. Greg Abbott told the PUC to incentivize gas, coal and nuclear power while adding costs for renewables.
And:
Exxon Knew about Climate Change Almost 40 Years Ago
A new investigation shows the oil company understood the science before it became a public issue and spent millions to promote misinformation
And, a recent THREE-PART PBS documentary on just how long they've been at this:
The Power of Big Oil | FRONTLINE
Watch FRONTLINE's three-part documentary examining the fossil fuel industry’s history of casting doubt and delaying action on climate change.
www.pbs.org
And, please, at least watch the trailer:
YES, I do concur on this singular point: for now we still require unburned fossil fuels for a wide variety of products (tires, etc.) but at least those are not converted into GHG's. So that gives them a pass for decades of lies and more, not to mention likely funding the incessant attacks on Tesla and Elon Musk? I'd posit that the unburned part of their product stream is ~20%, or less? Does that allow us to forgive that the firms and their lobbyists are 100% evil?
p.s. Want more recent examples of their work to screw over the entire planet? How about the material from just the past few months and weeks regarding how Sen Manchin has been THE roadblock on BBB and how the latest legislation version remains a huge boon to oil and gas?
WARNING: THE FOLLOWING ARTICLES MAY CAUSE NAUSEA AND RAGE:
Manchin's campaign contributions surpassed $1.5 million as his leverage loomed toward end of 2021
Being arguably the most powerful person in Washington, D.C., was a lucrative position for Sen. Joe Manchin in the final months of 2021.
And:
'Easter eggs' in climate bill delight oil and gas industry
"If you squint hard enough, you can see this being a bipartisan compromise," one lobbyist said.
www.politico.com
Key point:
The bill would also require the Interior Department to offer at least 2 million acres a year for onshore oil and gas lease sales. Unless it holds those lease sales, the bill says, the department could not offer rights of way for solar and wind power projects.
And:
Manchin has raked in $400K in fossil fuel donations
Sen. Joe Manchin took in more than $400,000 from fossil fuel interests in recent months as he fought his colleagues' plans to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in the electricity sector.
www.eenews.net
Key point:
But the fossil fuel donations he received in recent months overwhelmingly came from the oil and natural gas industry, not coal.
How One Senator Doomed the Democrats’ Climate Plan
Senator Joe Manchin III of West Virginia led his party and his president through months of tortured talks, with nothing to show for it as the planet dangerously heats up.
Key point:
Senator Joe Manchin III of West Virginia, who took more campaign cash from the oil and gas industry than any other senator, and who became a millionaire from his family coal business, independently blew up the Democratic Party’s legislative plans to fight climate change.
The Accountant
Active Member
At the 4:05 mark you can see that there is huge shift change going on (note the caravan of buses), yet new vehicles still keeping entering the logistics lot in a continuous flow. Tesla knows Manufacturing!
Two things can be true at the same time:Ah, no, no, no.
Please, stop misleading those on this thread--we deserve better.
The fossil fuel industry DOES need to be vilified for they are evil, perpetuating misinformation re: climate change for decades so as to line their pockets at the expense of our only planet's future.
Are you not familiar with these facts?
Inside Exxon’s playbook
How America's biggest oil company continues to oppose action on climate change
And:
ERCOT Announces Electricity Market Redesign, Warns Of More Energy Conservation Requests
The market redesign is ongoing, and the grid operator has already made some changes to improve reliability. Nonetheless, officials warn Texans to expect more energy conservation requests in the coming weeks as temperatures rise.
Key quote:
Earlier this month — about two weeks after receiving a $1 million donation from a natural gas executive whose company made more than $2 billion during the winter storm — [Texas] Gov. Greg Abbott told the PUC to incentivize gas, coal and nuclear power while adding costs for renewables.
And:
Exxon Knew about Climate Change Almost 40 Years Ago
A new investigation shows the oil company understood the science before it became a public issue and spent millions to promote misinformationwww.scientificamerican.com
And, a recent THREE-PART PBS documentary on just how long they've been at this:
The Power of Big Oil | FRONTLINE
Watch FRONTLINE's three-part documentary examining the fossil fuel industry’s history of casting doubt and delaying action on climate change.www.pbs.org
And, please, at least watch the trailer:
YES, I do concur on this singular point: for now we still require unburned fossil fuels for a wide variety of products (tires, etc.) but at least those are not converted into GHG's. So that gives them a pass for decades of lies and more, not to mention likely funding the incessant attacks on Tesla and Elon Musk? I'd posit that the unburned part of their product stream is ~20%, or less? Does that allow us to forgive that the firms and their lobbyists are 100% evil?
p.s. Want more recent examples of their work to screw over the entire planet? How about the material from just the past few months and weeks regarding how Sen Manchin has been THE roadblock on BBB and how the latest legislation version remains a huge boon to oil and gas?
WARNING: THE FOLLOWING ARTICLES MAY CAUSE NAUSEA AND RAGE:
Manchin's campaign contributions surpassed $1.5 million as his leverage loomed toward end of 2021
Being arguably the most powerful person in Washington, D.C., was a lucrative position for Sen. Joe Manchin in the final months of 2021.www.wvgazettemail.com
And:
'Easter eggs' in climate bill delight oil and gas industry
"If you squint hard enough, you can see this being a bipartisan compromise," one lobbyist said.
Key point:
The bill would also require the Interior Department to offer at least 2 million acres a year for onshore oil and gas lease sales. Unless it holds those lease sales, the bill says, the department could not offer rights of way for solar and wind power projects.
And:
Manchin has raked in $400K in fossil fuel donations
Sen. Joe Manchin took in more than $400,000 from fossil fuel interests in recent months as he fought his colleagues' plans to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in the electricity sector.
Key point:
But the fossil fuel donations he received in recent months overwhelmingly came from the oil and natural gas industry, not coal.
How One Senator Doomed the Democrats’ Climate Plan
Senator Joe Manchin III of West Virginia led his party and his president through months of tortured talks, with nothing to show for it as the planet dangerously heats up.www.nytimes.com
Key point:
Senator Joe Manchin III of West Virginia, who took more campaign cash from the oil and gas industry than any other senator, and who became a millionaire from his family coal business, independently blew up the Democratic Party’s legislative plans to fight climate change.
1. I agree with your assertion that oil companies only care about profit, and everything else be damned.
2. I also agree with CaptKerosene (and Elon) that in the near term the world desperately needs more of the commodities that Big Oil provides.
You two seem to be talking past one another.
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
By definition, the world does not need more oil. Demand is lower than at it's peak in 2019 and is now very unlikely to ever reclaim that demand level.
Supply is more than ample, and any minor disruptions certainly should not be causing prices to skyrocket.
Yes, we have an "open market" that dictates spot and futures pricing. But it's being purposely manipulated by oil & gas + wall St+ a willing press.
Read my comments in the oil thread for more info and fun ways to potentially combat this clear as day price gouging.
How is this kerosene troll still posting here?
Supply is more than ample, and any minor disruptions certainly should not be causing prices to skyrocket.
Yes, we have an "open market" that dictates spot and futures pricing. But it's being purposely manipulated by oil & gas + wall St+ a willing press.
Read my comments in the oil thread for more info and fun ways to potentially combat this clear as day price gouging.
How is this kerosene troll still posting here?
Causalien
Prime 8 ball Oracle
Plebs who suck at investing can only cope by pretending we are clueless, when in fact this is the highest form of 8 balling.
ToTheStars
Member
I don't know, but I feel it's annoying me as well.
CLK350
Member
Recent news, not sure if it hasn't been reported here yet (way too much posts to go through! could we get an algo cleaned up thread?), Elon countersues Twitter - maybe the new legal sharks have gotten busy.
[Weekend OT:] Trying to catch up
Tip for the lucky ones living near Phoenix AZ ordering Tesla's: Gruber provides a thorough pre-purchase inspection service at a reasonable $345 cost.
Also notable Tesla repair/ maintenance specialist I would recommend, the Electrified Garage with centers in NH/ FL of YouTuber early Tesla hand rebuilt flooded Model S Dolores.
Disclaimer: not affiliated with Gruber Motors or The Electrified Garage - just part of my earlier years research into Tesla ca 2019 when like most folks I had NO idea Tesla wasn't a billionaire's toy project, as I wasn't particularly interested in cars - just computers and photography.
[Weekend OT:] Trying to catch up
Also re all comments on Tesla battery pack repairs - the confusion may be because of some earlier FUD relating to Roadster and Model S only battery packs. Turns out these can be repaired without a complete battery swap; individual cells also may be replaced/ repaired/ neutralized. As far as I know only Gruber Motors does this properly.
Tip for the lucky ones living near Phoenix AZ ordering Tesla's: Gruber provides a thorough pre-purchase inspection service at a reasonable $345 cost.
Also notable Tesla repair/ maintenance specialist I would recommend, the Electrified Garage with centers in NH/ FL of YouTuber early Tesla hand rebuilt flooded Model S Dolores.
Disclaimer: not affiliated with Gruber Motors or The Electrified Garage - just part of my earlier years research into Tesla ca 2019 when like most folks I had NO idea Tesla wasn't a billionaire's toy project, as I wasn't particularly interested in cars - just computers and photography.
willow_hiller
Well-Known Member
Looks like the annual meeting will include some fireworks.
If you recall the referral reward where Tesla said they would launch a photo into space, they've put together a nice mosaic of them all and the launch is scheduled for August 4: Tesla Photo in Space Mosaic | Tesla
If you recall the referral reward where Tesla said they would launch a photo into space, they've put together a nice mosaic of them all and the launch is scheduled for August 4: Tesla Photo in Space Mosaic | Tesla
CLK350
Member
Has anyone figured out how to download that (huge) photo file ? Paging Tesla photographers ...
I disagree with almost everything he says, but I would not call him a troll.
He does not spam the board repeatedly. He agrees to disagree and moves on. And he is on record that he is OK with everyone disagreeing with him.
We should not chase people off because we disagree with them. We should chase them off if they are disruptive to the board.
Nolimits
Member
So who on here won the megamillions and more importantly, will you be purchasing more Tsla shares with the winnings?
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
Manchin was able to be the roadblock because EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN declined to step up to the plate and support the legislation.
You still can’t order one in Europe.
Yes, we are all very lucky.
Thanks for pointing out this video. A goldmine indeed!
They also talked about how GM Cruise is losing $500 million per quarter. They say that Cruise has about 2 years before they are out of money with little hope of raising more. That is, unless they can prove a path to profitability in that time.
I don't see Tesla as a direct competitor to Cruise and Waymo any time soon. It's possible that they each carve out a niche of their own, but Tesla is by far the most likely to achieve success. And it looks like the analysts in the video have figured out why.
Tesla doesn't need to find a path to profitability. The cost structure for FSD development is sustainable long term. Even if it takes another 10 years, Tesla can keep refining the system until it's good enough. The others don't have that luxury.
It's ironic that the brilliance of Tesla's approach doesn't have so much to do with the technology itself. The real advantage for Tesla is the cost structure.
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