Yeah.
Slide says 2.3kWh. 2170 cells are 17.3Wh, so it would require roughly 133 of them or 14s10p ish.
28 cells would mean each cell in the slide was 82 Wh which lines up with 4680s at 86Wh each.
18650s would be in the 200 range...
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Slide says 2.3kWh. 2170 cells are 17.3Wh, so it would require roughly 133 of them or 14s10p ish.
28 cells would mean each cell in the slide was 82 Wh which lines up with 4680s at 86Wh each.
18650s would be in the 200 range...
Excellent Christmas ad from GM.
Merry Christmas, all!
Merry Christmas, all!
Buckminster
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That's after 2030 right? People already think my $375T model is a little racy with just 200 million bots...
Buckminster
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Thanks for that, I read about Geddy's connection with the Great White in his autobiography, but never heard it!
And damn, that Columbia tribute is moving. I watched that live on TV, was devasating. Damn those o-rings! I don't think kids today appreciate how dangerous space explaoration was in the past
And Countdown, well, I was on mly way to my first Rush gig on May 23 1983, Signals Tour, when Countdown came on the radio, had been flirting with the UK charts at the time and broke into it, was a magical moment...
I think I shared this already after Neil's death, but worth revisting, a nebulous link to Tesla as they have a great Vet programme:
I think this is pretty perfect, except it will fore sure (HOPEFULLY) not have FWD. Not doable for that pricetag and maybe for once, they should REALLY focus on getting it easy to manufacture
ByeByeJohnny
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Except to sell to sell multimillons year after year it needs to have four doors, a full backseat, room for a few suitcases and no Falcon doors. So nowhere close to what Tesla will actually do.I think this is pretty perfect, except it will fore sure (HOPEFULLY) not have FWD. Not doable for that pricetag and maybe for once, they should REALLY focus on getting it easy to manufacture
Would be a great sportscar though.
The O-rings were Challenger. Columbia was foam damage to the leading edge of the wing.
Musskiah
DisGruntled
Elon at one time said the location of the next European Gigafactory would be announced around the end of 2023 - I would imagine it will almost certainly happen in 2024. It seems Italy and France (perhaps Spain also) are still in contention, and the UK may throw its hat back in the ring after Somerset went to Tata
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Why UK could be back in frame for Tesla gigafactory | Autocar
Germany beat UK to Tesla battery factory in 2019 but Musk has insisted he wants another European gigafactory
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
Doors need to offer more headroom when opened... or, I'll need a helmet for when I forget to duck.
Other than that, SCHWEET!
UkNorthampton
TSLA - 12+ startups in 1
UK is in political, economic, medical & infrastructure chaos. I wouldn't invest. I think Tesla & Elon know this very well.Elon at one time said the location of the next European Gigafactory would be announced around the end of 2023 - I would imagine it will almost certainly happen in 2024. It seems Italy and France (perhaps Spain also) are still in contention, and the UK may throw its hat back in the ring after Somerset went to Tata
Why UK could be back in frame for Tesla gigafactory | Autocar
Germany beat UK to Tesla battery factory in 2019 but Musk has insisted he wants another European gigafactory
In fact, I could see the writing on the wall years ago & it was a big reason why I looked at USA shares, and then that eventually led to TSLA.
Elon at one time said the location of the next European Gigafactory would be announced around the end of 2023 - I would imagine it will almost certainly happen in 2024. It seems Italy and France (perhaps Spain also) are still in contention, and the UK may throw its hat back in the ring after Somerset went to Tata
Why UK could be back in frame for Tesla gigafactory | Autocar
Germany beat UK to Tesla battery factory in 2019 but Musk has insisted he wants another European gigafactory
Maybe Sweden?
2daMoon
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Maybe Sweden?
Such a union with Tesla seems kinda "IF"y to me...
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KBF
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Spain would make sense to me - lots of solar power, and IIRC France doesn't allow them to export excess electricity to the rest of Europe to protect its own power plant profitability. Use that extra production for a Gigafactory, IMO. Not sure what labour is like there... But France has a reputation for striking & rioting as a national pastime... Not sure you'd get as much productivity there.Elon at one time said the location of the next European Gigafactory would be announced around the end of 2023 - I would imagine it will almost certainly happen in 2024. It seems Italy and France (perhaps Spain also) are still in contention, and the UK may throw its hat back in the ring after Somerset went to Tata
Why UK could be back in frame for Tesla gigafactory | Autocar
Germany beat UK to Tesla battery factory in 2019 but Musk has insisted he wants another European gigafactory
You just described the Model3. It’s going to be much smaller than that.
ByeByeJohnny
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Elon will have a huge problem with any of those countriesElon at one time said the location of the next European Gigafactory would be announced around the end of 2023 - I would imagine it will almost certainly happen in 2024. It seems Italy and France (perhaps Spain also) are still in contention, and the UK may throw its hat back in the ring after Somerset went to Tata
Why UK could be back in frame for Tesla gigafactory | Autocar
Germany beat UK to Tesla battery factory in 2019 but Musk has insisted he wants another European gigafactory
Annual averages of days not worked due to strikes per 1,000 employees 2010-2019
France 127Spain 49
Uk 18
Sweden 2
France has a 98% collective bargaining coverage. Sweden has 90%.
Source: Which countries go on strike the most in Europe?
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This YouTube channel provides some interesting information on the UK, China and Russia.
['UK in Deep Trouble as GDP Crashes, Recession Looms, Debt Hits Record Level & Sunak Pledges Fail']
I can see why Elon is concerned about a recession, and there are still a few headwinds in 2024.
The people in the UK deserve better, I hope you can elect a series of governments that make good decisions over the next decade, because that is what it will take to get the UK back on track.
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ByeByeJohnny
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Can't be too much smaller. 7 out of 10 top selling cars in Europe so far in 2023 has four doors.
UkNorthampton
TSLA - 12+ startups in 1
Joe is good, lived experience here in the UK as well.
It isn't the right time to take a gamble on the UK. Maybe in the future, I just don't see any competitive advantage and plenty of risks. Megapacktory as a support for wind power and grid would be fine.
In comparison, Spain's strikes, infrastructure & other factors probably depend on region and industry (public or private sector). Large, diverse country with differences in politics & much more between different regions.
I do wonder about Poland, Czechia or Slovakia for a factory. Relatively close to Berlin which gives an element of competition/risk avoidance, but shipping cars is rather similar. Last 2 very big in manufacturing including cars.
I think we could end up with Megapacktories in many European countries.
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