Drumheller
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That's not a wink emoticon.
And Elon literally winked a few minutes after the post.
Someone buys Sawyer a beer.
It is a "eyes on" in other words, "read this"
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That's not a wink emoticon.
And Elon literally winked a few minutes after the post.
Someone buys Sawyer a beer.
This is a forum for anyone interested in investing in Tesla, right? If so, anyone's reason for buying and selling shares may be interesting for others, right? Granted, a mere statement that you are selling for example 1000 shares at 165 $ may not be that informative but then the same goes for those who report their purchases, doesn't it? I frequent a lot of forums and don't know of any which is so heavily moderated and where there is so much anger if someone posts the "wrong" thing. As a strong believer in free speech I don't get that. Just scroll on and don't bother about the things that do not interest you.What's with clowns having to post incessantly that they're selling their Tesla stock? Why? SMH.
There likely won't be a wheel or controller on the robotaxi, but almost 0% chance there's not a wheel and pedals on the consumer car.There will always be some way to manually control the car. Every automated system needs manual overrides. But it might be something similar to a video game controller.
However, I think there will indeed be steering wheel and pedals on the first version of the consumer car. But not on the first version of the robotaxi.
One needs a PR Department for that.Elon is just winking and *sugar* now but not clarifying Sawyers conjecture, so who knows what the heck is going on.
Could be true, might not be. Gen3 might be RT only with no steering wheel and pedals, or it might be a dual platform to make both a compact consumer EV and an RT concurrently like we thought. Who the F*** knows, guess us HOLD'ers will just have to hold on and wait to see what happens.
Its the ambiguity and uncertainty which bothers me. How hard is it to just clarify the situation with a little straight communication?
Elon is just winking and *sugar* now but not clarifying Sawyers conjecture, so who knows what the heck is going on.
Could be true, might not be. Gen3 might be RT only with no steering wheel and pedals, or it might be a dual platform to make both a compact consumer EV and an RT concurrently like we thought. Who the F*** knows, guess us HOLD'ers will just have to hold on and wait to see what happens.
Its the ambiguity and uncertainty which bothers me. How hard is it to just clarify the situation with a little straight communication?
I find that "resources" question interesting too. In the high tech companies I've worked in, it typically meant "engineers" plus maybe "budget".Sawyer wrote "Maybe Elon and the team have been so impressed with how good FSD 12 has performed and were maybe thinking they should be shifting even more resources to the Robotaxi/FSD effort.
This doesn't mean the $25k car is canceled. Again, they share the same platform."
I guess I don't understand what "resources" he means here...
If it's the same platform and RT just deletes driver controls-- what "shifting resources" do you need there? Like- a dude to design a blank dash piece?
On the compute side there's no resources just working on a manual-driven car that'd be useful to 'shift' there.
And it's not shifting money- since Tesla has mountains of extra cash sitting around.
And it's not like Tesla has been shy putting resources into FSD development (see the massive Nvidia spend plus the Dojo project).
Somehow I thought the roadster would be the robotaxi.So this is exactly what I was thinking probably happened. All good lies are based on a kernel of truth.
Elon is making the right move here. Tesla needs to get robotaxis on the road as soon as possible. Apparently, there was a meeting where Elon made that clear. That means focusing the company on robotaxi.
But it does not mean killing the $25,000 car as was reported.
Again, Elon is making the right move. Tesla robotaxi is coming a lot sooner than many of you think it is.
They can’t. It’s MATERIAL. Ducks need to be set in a row before revealing MATERIAL.Before fsd is fully operational , he decides to go full robotaxi
That seems far fetched. Fsd is no where near that.
Again we are left adrift as nobody at tesla confirms or denies.
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And there it is. Rueters is LYING. What a shock. And all you people who lost your minds can now apologize to the rest of us long term investors.
Sawyer wrote "Maybe Elon and the team have been so impressed with how good FSD 12 has performed and were maybe thinking they should be shifting even more resources to the Robotaxi/FSD effort.
This doesn't mean the $25k car is canceled. Again, they share the same platform."
I guess I don't understand what "resources" he means here...
If it's the same platform and RT just deletes driver controls-- what "shifting resources" do you need there? Like- a dude to design a blank dash piece?
On the compute side there's no resources just working on a manual-driven car that'd be useful to 'shift' there.
And it's not shifting money- since Tesla has mountains of extra cash sitting around.
And it's not like Tesla has been shy putting resources into FSD development (see the massive Nvidia spend plus the Dojo project).
Something needs to counter the people posting that they're buying, or you might end up with a view distorted to one sideWhat's with clowns having to post incessantly that they're selling their Tesla stock? Why? SMH.
WowWe need to going up to 170$ like where we are before Reuters new if not Reuters win
I altered your words to say the obvious and honest point. It really does not make sense to have all of your invested securities wealth tied up in a single security. regardless of an individual company success and prospects some diversification in highly desirable. That need not be a broadly diversified fund or anything like that. It only means that risks can be balanced. With TSLA from day one every prudent investor knew it would be volatile and probably stay that way. We need not blame Elon for anything other than the prime mover fo our success; high volatility comes with the territory.I'm not "quitting" anything and my post had little to do with whatever's currently in the news... I've gotten to a point where a large part of my net worth being tied to a single [security is unwise]...
That bothers me too. Elon has said that an update was coming just like he did with SpaceX. So I think he's probably waiting for that moment to provide more clarity as to his plans.Its the ambiguity and uncertainty which bothers me. How hard is it to just clarify the situation with a little straight communication?
I was at the last shareholder meeting. I certainly paid attention. I still stand by my words. I’ll buy back in when Elon leaves, or when Elon gets a therapist [not Jordan Peeterson or some nut ], or when it’s actually undervalued. I expect door number 3.I altered your words to say the obvious and honest point. It really does not make sense to have all of your invested securities wealth tied up in a single security. regardless of an individual company success and prospects some diversification in highly desirable. That need not be a broadly diversified fund or anything like that. It only means that risks can be balanced. With TSLA from day one every prudent investor knew it would be volatile and probably stay that way. We need not blame Elon for anything other than the prime mover fo our success; high volatility comes with the territory.
Some of us who bought during the low points and rode to the peaks are dismayed. Obviously for shareholders higher is better. For those who regard the future and highly likely to be very lucrative still HODL and ignore the volatility.
No doubt most of us who take that view hold Tesla as less than, say, 20% or so of holdings. Even aggressive HODL will rarely have more than half their investible assets in any one security.
The present fear is simply that. Now we see Elon only in negatives and listen to FUD from Reuters et al as if it is true, even when we know there si a <50% chance that it is true. Attributing purchase behavior of Tesla vehicles to Elon's behavior is simply accepting FUD.
That is easy to do when many of us are promoting negativism just because of fear.
It really is depressing that so few of us actually paid attention in the last shareholders meeting. They told us what to expect and now we're terrified that it is what they told us would be happening, all preparing for 2025 and after.
Please, we all need to retain sound judgement, for those who've not endured peaks and valleys in securities, welcome to the real world. For those who weren't around for 2008, or even 1973 and before, these things happen. That is life.
What about those here high-fiving, having jumped on it like jackals on a rabbit? Supposed long term investors here honestly discussing Tesla’s business to warn the fanbois and kool aid drinkers?You know what I find the most despicable....the fools high-fiving each other in the rotoruters office as they watch the SP fall.
That's why I don't ignore you and a few others who provide reasoning or a point of view even if I may disagree. However the people who post that they're selling all their Tesla stock and trash Elon aren't helpful. It's no better than people going on other social media sites to declare to the world that they are quitting said social media site.Something needs to counter the people posting that they're buying, or you might end up with a view distorted to one side
Like some big names on Twitter posting when Aunt Cathie is buying TSLA but crickets when she talks about selling on stock price spikes much less when they're actually selling.
We agree almost 100%. I say almost, because I could see a consumer vehicle down the road without the wheel and pedals.There likely won't be a wheel or controller on the robotaxi, but almost 0% chance there's not a wheel and pedals on the consumer car.