So with no nag, that means 12.4 is hands free? Is that what Elon just implied or am I hallucinating?
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So with no nag, that means 12.4 is hands free? Is that what Elon just implied or am I hallucinating?
This is not a drillSo with no nag, that means 12.4 is hands free? Is that what Elon just implied or am I hallucinating?
@MountainRatMatTeach a man to fish.....
....I already know how to fish but I'm lazy so I haven't looked it up.
500 people were fired from the Super Charger team. People who work/worked at Tesla made the statement that it was the ENTIRE SC team...not Rueters or some message board.So, you think this one manager was over all aspects of design, manufacturing, sales, site planning, installation, network, app programming, and any other aspect of Superchargers, AND, you believe all of these positions were cut simultaneously?
The idea that one manager of a team of 500 might not be the full extent of the entire Tesla Supercharger footprint didn't cross your mind?
Okay, has anyone defined whether this reference to "the entire Supercharger team" meant everybody associated with Superchargers across the Teslasphere?
Anyone actually believing that all aspects of the realm of Superchargers would be accomplished by 500 people really hasn't given the scope of this effort any rational thought.
Let's make a list, again: design, manufacturing, sales, site planning, installation, service, computer network, app design/programming.
This is 8 groups. So that is ~60 people per group, on average. Does that really seem like a reasonable amount of people to be doing all the necessary jobs to turn out multiple new sites every 24 hours?
If, on the other hand, consider how it might mean 500 people from "A" Supercharger team, located in a single office space, whose responsibilities were specific to a particular aspect of Superchargers, and who were under a single manager were the team that was fired.
This seems like the more reasonable scenario. In such a scenario, might it be possible that "people familiar with the matter" would be right to say "the entire team was fired," without being at all specific as to what those people's job description was, or whether they were all at the same location?
Anyone who won't consider this as being one other interpretation of such a statement have closed their minds to how people often talk and think about things.
Do you honestly believe that there were only 500 people involved with the total scope of the Supercharger effort?500 people were fired from the Super Charger team. People who work/worked at Tesla made the statement that it was the ENTIRE SC team...not Rueters or some message board.
Why question it? What's the point in trying to create leaps otherwise. Obviously Tesla will have others fill in the gaps and they are as Elon tweeted with a skeleton crew...they aren't going to just let them die and no new growth, but it's pretty definitive that the entire Supercharger team was let go. It really should really be a dead topic after that. The conversation should be let's wait and see if there's negative impact...if not, Tesla made a brilliant move there. If so, how quickly will they fill the roles? This won't be the death of Tesla, they can see pretty quickly if this was a bad or good move.
Why would we argue with multiple sources inside and outside of Tesla? This is that strange behavior some do in this forum to always try to spin things in the light they think is best...but in reality there's no reason to. It's not a big deal at this point.
There was a 500 person team responsible for SC, yes. I think this because multiple people at Tesla have said and confirmed this.Do you honestly believe that there were only 500 people involved with the total scope of the Supercharger effort?
Yes, or no.
There was a 500 person team responsible for SC, yes. I think this because multiple people at Tesla have said and confirmed this.
There's 0 reason to believe otherwise.
Edit: Really, just let it go. You are trying to create some conspiracy for no reason. There's no reason to make leaps as we don't even know if this is a negative impact on the company, yet.
Yes, there are people buying/subscribing after the free trial. No one knows how many or what percentage. It's possible Tesla may announce it at some point, but certainly not guaranteed. My guess is we won't get this data anytime soon.I've been searching for an answer to this question and haven't found it so I'm going ask it here. We had free FSD for a month and it was given to us so we would now purchase it. If we do, that's great [and almost free] money for Tesla and great money for the stock. My question is: Are people now purchasing FSD? What are the numbers?
Do you honestly believe that there were only 500 people involved with the total scope of the Supercharger effort?
Yes, or No
Well, somebody was. I think they aren't any more.No one is saying ONLY 500 people worked on SC's,
but we know for a fact that the 500 person team which handled customer contacts and site installations on the business side for the US were let go, and the equal team on the Canada side was let go too. Multiple ex employees and sources have reported this, but no one which I'm aware of have said they were the ONLY people on the SC team, just the majority of them. The maintenance and support people remain to service existing SC's, but we know these are smaller teams from ex employees.
Your mind is probably being blownSo with no nag, that means 12.4 is hands free? Is that what Elon just implied or am I hallucinating?
But yet we have confirmation that the people maintaining the Superchargers were not let go:There was a 500 person team responsible for SC, yes. I think this because multiple people at Tesla have said and confirmed this.
There's 0 reason to believe otherwise.
Edit: Really, just let it go. You are trying to create some conspiracy for no reason. There's no reason to make leaps as we don't even know if this is a negative impact on the company, yet.
A coworker of my daughters got the free trial and still has it. They didn’t pull it after a month.Yes, there are people buying/subscribing after the free trial. No one knows how many or what percentage. It's possible Tesla may announce it at some point, but certainly not guaranteed. My guess is we won't get this data anytime soon.
Kick a normal car's door, kick Cybertruck's: exoskeleton.We've long known "exoskeleton" was just marketing BS, but this apparently isn't even unibody. Just body on frame, albeit a very extensive and highly engineered frame.
It's more than macro. Tesla car sales were growing wildly, now they're shrinking. The rest of the industry is mixed, some up y/y and some down.Macro economics, not specific to Tesla
Agreed. Elon may be reacting to an awful sales outlook. Or maybe he's going all-in on Robotaxis. Or maybe he's off his meds. We outsiders can only guess.There is more than one possible explanation for this pivot on Elon's part.
"Other companies" is a strawman. They have a different business model. The issue is Tesla past vs. Tesla present. Tesla inventory on 3/31:Please provide the inventory numbers compared to other auto companies you feel are doing better.
Fake news. Legacy recognizes revenue based on shipments to dealers, but they report unit sales based on end customer sales and their inventory numbers include dealer inventory. There are a couple wrinkles, e.g. dealer loaner cars, but they're rounding errors.Take into consideration their inventory on dealer lots may not get counted as those have been "delivered" by their accounting,
All of them.
You don’t ask your racehorse’s trainer to decide which parts of its excess fat are slowing it down.
You demand to have it shed all the excess.