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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Tell me about it! My Model Y is still in the shop (rear-ended), and I've been driving a rental gasmobile for about a month now.Yeah I hate driving without Autopilot now too, its just so incredibly handy and wonderful at what it does.
My wife has a Subaru Crosstrek and it feels like going back to the stone age every time I have to drive it. No autopilot, its noisy, wipers and lights don't work themselves, need to constantly adjust the climate controls, etc.
Tesla cars have a way of spoiling you, no wonder they sell so well.
I effing HATE it. Slow, sloshy, and spewing. I borrow my partner's Y whenever possible.
Nothing like being forced to drive that horse and buggy to really miss your Tesla!
If I recall correctly, Tesla's definition of a crash is different than the one used for the general data. So one might argue they aren't directly comparable
GhostSkater
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Sadly I think I will have to start adding to ignore list people that keep replying to people already on my ignore list, because else it's useless 
I am taking it on both theoretical and demonstrated performance of heuristic vs end-to-end systems.
Why won't you answer my simple question?
Do you consider the performance of FSD V10 to be comparable to FSD V12?
What’s sad is the only thing I see now is this message…lolSadly I think I will have to start adding to ignore list people that keep replying to people already on my ignore list, because else it's useless
I'm looking into Turo for the first time because my upcoming short trip to the Bay area has me flying and Hertz doesn't rent Teslas anymore. That's just how much I don't want to go back to driving ICE. Don't know what I'm gonna do in EU since Sixt isn't renting Teslas anymore
Whiskey Tango....................................................., where are you going?Other that being incorrect on all your factual premise, you're also rather unreasoned in your view of driver information.
FYI, :
"British European Airways ordered a fleet of Hawker Siddeley HS 121 Tridents, three-engine jetliners that in 1965 became the first transports to fly automatic landings in revenue service."
source: Smithsonian
Presently some version of autoland is available even on small aircraft:
Not only do aircraft have autoland they also have ground auto navigation coming:
Piper first with Garmin Autoland approval
The FAA on May 15 certified Garmin Autoland on the Piper M600/SLS, making it the first airplane ever certified with a system that will land the airplane on its own should the pilot become incapacitated.www.aopa.org
As for the 1500 feet nonsense that has not been true ever. There could be, perhaps, some use of such limits somewhere. unlikely but possible somewhere for some operations, most likely training ones. In normal practice for IFR, pilots tend to choose autopilot until minimum approach height, unless using autoland. That is tendency, not regulatory.
Highest level of precision with the new Airbus Ground Control Points
Airbus has launched a new series of Ground Control Points (GCPs) to give centimetre level accuracy and higher points density. These highly precise 3D coordinates are automatically extracted from Airbus’ high-resolution stereo radar imagery, using an innovative geodesy processor.www.airbus.com
Although I'm a former Airline Transport Pilot and CFI I am not current. The data, though, is readily accessible.
As we consider automotive use of driving aids and eventually true point-to-point automation, you're woefully out of touch with present reality, including Tesla and several others.
Just as even small Cessnas have excellent autopilots available today, we might understand that "hand flying" today is now mostly for sport. Very soon, "hand driving" will be thus. As with aircraft automated systems, none of the ones for vehicles anytime soon are able to be 100% supervised. Even fully automatic aircraft still have monitoring and remote control in some respect. So it will be for vehicles for some time, probably including Robotaxi at least when it begins.
My point is in a regulated environment, and as a former APT, you know this, automation has led to air travel being the safest mode of transportation. The roadways are NOT regulated, so for FSD in vehicles to achieve the same aviation safety numbers, the majority of vehicles will have to use some form of FSD. Accidents avoided because of FSD is a testimony to the technology. Whether it's worth $9K is another post.
The majority in General Aviation is not flying around in modern Cirrus aircraft with the latest safety features or old Pipers, and Cessnas upgraded to the latest Garmin suite.
Enjoy your retirement.
Yup. Absolutely unreadable. Pity. We need more Mr. Ed's...
On the topic of investing talk, wow is the market red today, TSLA included. Only NVDA and F are green on my rather large watchlist, and TSLA is fairing surprisingly well given how much most of my list is down.
Tesla presently unch...................The market is perplexed. 
JupiterMan
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I use Turo to rent a Tesla every time I fly. It works great (no waiting in line at the car rental place). I was tempted to rent a Cybertruck last month in Southern California, but $400 a day was just too much. I found a Model 3 for about $50 a day.
Cybertruck prices are coming down though...
insaneoctane
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Jeez. Maybe @Usain and @Knightshade could go get a room? Then, once you decide who's right /wrong, come back and post the final conclusion. Or not.
Since when? It looks like they still do to me, this is in Vegas for next week:
Maybe the Teslas are all booked up for San Jose, but you could still get a Kia EV6, which is better than an ICE, at least in my opinion:
Yep, for the first time, I'm ignoring a few posters here who are clearly not trolls. This includes a couple of folks who I know have good intentions and with whom I agree on many viewpoints. And I want to continue seeing their posts. But the sheer mind-numbing number of back-and-forth posts are are not worth my time. So I've decided to ignore them for my sanity's sake and also to make it bearable to continue to read this forum.Sadly I think I will have to start adding to ignore list people that keep replying to people already on my ignore list, because else it's useless
I like the idea of limiting the number of posts per thread per day. If we were limited to 5 or 10 per day, folks would think twice about getting into a back-and-forth spat (or get stopped out if they can't help themselves). I'm sure this is a simplistic way of looking at this which makes it not practical or desirable, but man, this thread is getting harder and harder to enjoy.
Ha ha, I've suggested this multiple times in the past. I guess they just can't help themselves.
Like limit how many times per day each member can post to this thread? Say maybe 5 posts per day to this thread per person?
Yeah, I'd be all in for that change, quality over quantity!
Yes, exactly.Like limit how many times per day each member can post to this thread? Say maybe 5 posts per day to this thread per person?
Yeah, I'd be all in for that change, quality over quantity!
EDIT: btw, this is not my original idea. Others have suggested this in the past.
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