Respectfully, who do you believe Elon is supporting to win elections, and why would his choice be bad for his view on Climate Policy? Despite the socially-conditioned polarization that is unfortunately more apparent on TMC now than any time I can recall, all signs I see would suggest Elon supports RFK Jr more so than either Biden or Trump. Elon doesn't really seem to have any definable Dem-only or Rep-only position for that matter IMO. But that of course isn't covered by 'either side' of 'the news'. For instance, Elon hosted RFK Jr as a presidential candidate on Twitter Spaces to discuss Reclaiming Democracy last year. And then on May 7th Elon retweated a relatively-unknown 30-minute RFK Jr documentry hosted by Woody Harrelson to an audience that quickly grew to over 48 million people, saying it was "Worth Watching" after claims that it was getting censored by msm. And most recently he agreed to host a presidential debate that would include RFK Jr since other msm wouldn't, and he would of course do this on X for an audience at least an order of magnitude larger than any single network. Regardless of who any of us think will win, or who we want to win - from a Climate-Perspective Elon is amplifying a dialog from the only candidate that is openly discussing the immediate reduction in the size of our military and aggressively cleaning up our food and agricultural systems and our soils. And from a Climate-perspective, this is critical, since our US military is The World's Single Largest Consumer of Oil... That is worth reading a second time. It would rank 47th as a nation in GHG emmissions. And repairing the natural biomes of our soils through sustainable agriculture instread of simply eliminating farm production is exactly what Elon has been discussing for years as well. Again, somewhere between the boxes of Right and Left that we are all supposed to live in and listen to, there is a greater discussion Elon is sharing that would unify more of our individual Climate perspectives than divide them.
Neta C. Crawford, Professor of Political Science and Department Chair at Boston University explains in an article on The Conversation website about the climate change concerns of America’s military…
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After all that Elon/Tesla weren't invited to - or participate in under the current administration, who couldn't understand his frustration with this administration? Does that mean he must take a position that is completely aligned with 'the other side'? Only if you believe there are only two sides to any story and no room in-between to think freely. And given that he gave up his advisory position under the Trump administration because of fundemental differences of opinion with the previous administration, wouldn't that mean he must be pro-Biden/Dem if there were only 2 sides to every story? Most posts on TMC seem to clearly disagree with any conclusion that Elon would be pro-Biden still. And they should. Elon - and the all the rest of us - are very likely to be much more complex -
and more unified than the current paradigm wants us to believe. We don't have to take the 'Divide and Conquer' bait every time, and live in only this box or only that box. Thus, many of the conversations of late that have marginalized Elon's entire belief system to something as simple as Red-only or Blue-only are painful to wade through.
I have not posted much on TMC in recent years, primarly because I was witnessing a once-close community of very like-minded people letting themselves become divided by an ever-amplified social-conditioning from 'both sides'. This was frustrating for me, as I too found myself wanting to argue with people on TMC that I knew I tended to agree with on most topics. And it used to be absolutely fine to argue constructively - in fact it is very healthy that we all don't agree on everything. But I dug in my heels a time or two in my arguements until I finally decided that maybe it would be better if I gave up on the existing paradigm that was intentionally dividing us instead of those here on TMC and in my inner circles that I knew I had something in common with...which is almost everyone on this board with the exception of the Trolls - who after a dozen years of owning TSLA I love to see show up in force because that typically leads to an increase in our net worth (
@GOVA is spot-on about that!)
So my sincere apologies to anyone here that I dug my heels in with -
@Thekiwi and
@phantasms and others.
Perhaps I should have prefaced this post with a comment that I recently returned home after taking 35 days to hike the full 500 miles of the Camino de Santiago Frances route from St Jean Pied de Port to the Cathedral plaza in Santiago de Compostella. During that time I remained unplugged from the world - and from divisiveness in general - as much as possible. I am not Catholic, nor do I profess following any single religion, however I am a very spiritual person. And by the end of the hike along a route that I shared with people of all faiths and all belief systems and all places of origin, I realized that the greatest cathedrals I saw along the route were the eyes that I looked into of every pilgrim I passed on the trail and shared a 'Buen Camino' moment with. I remember every face vivedly. Hundreds of them. And I was reminded of how powerful and how empowering it is when we embrace our similarities and look past our differences. And how we should look beyond the differences that others attempt to define of us. Once that happens, then things stand out as if they were written in red ink, or written by Trolls here on TMC.
TMC doesn't need to be the sour flavor many of us taste here as we read it of late. But that is what the Trolls come here to poison us with. And that is what we are poisoning each other with when things 'must be this if they aren't that'. The existing paradigm wins when we become divisive, and ultimately when we sell our shares to them as a result.