The Performance Upgrade Package Question

[MisterMo]

My point is that Tesla won’t limit it to P3D+, beacause that’s not the guys who will be spanking BMW M3s at the track. Instead, it’ll be the guys who put aftermarket bits on their P3D-s ala Mountain Pass who get the highest performance. Tesla knows this. Look at all the favorable press they got from a tuned, aftermarket RWD car! Imagine what a tuned P3D car would do!
Wait, what? A Tesla Model 3 time attack car? Is that a thing??

 

[GTIceman]

I agree that it would be dumb to limit track mode to the P3D+ group, I understand the brakes but I would still be swapping those pads out. I would also go down to 19s with sticky rubber for the track.

 

[MP3Mike]

My point is that Tesla won’t limit it to P3D+, beacause that’s not the guys who will be spanking BMW M3s at the track. Instead, it’ll be the guys who put aftermarket bits on their P3D-s ala Mountain Pass who get the highest performance.

And why couldn't someone with a P3D+ put aftermarket bits on their car and spank some BMW M3s at the track? (Especially with the track mode that the P3D- might not get.)

Or are you saying that the Mountain Pass stability control defeat module is going to be better than Tesla's track mode?

 

[khraiv]

My point is that Tesla won’t limit it to P3D+, beacause that’s not the guys who will be spanking BMW M3s at the track. Instead, it’ll be the guys who put aftermarket bits on their P3D-s ala Mountain Pass who get the highest performance. Tesla knows this. Look at all the favorable press they got from a tuned, aftermarket RWD car! Imagine what a tuned P3D car would do!
Wait, what? A Tesla Model 3 time attack car? Is that a thing??

Agreed, P+ is just for the extra bells and whistles "out of the box". Nothing more, nothing less. Happily paid for the P+, but I don't expect anything beyond what's included in hardware. Track will probably be exclusive to 3P, but not P+.

 

[MisterMo]

Of course someone with a P3D+ could put aftermarket bits on their car, but why pay $5K for Tesla performance parts only to pull them off and replace with other performance parts? Same is true with BMW. The fastest M3 cars came as Base, then were built up with better track parts. Tesla sees this.

None of use know for certain what Tesla will do. But they're usually smart people and it would be silly to hinder those who will seek the greatest performance gain at the track by not offering a track mode to them. It's software. Costs them nothing to give it to P3D- and arguably, that group will be the one's garnering the most favorable press for the brand.

 

[usofrob]

That seems silly. Why not just run 19’s on entire car?

Running 19"'s all around is definitely better. I was mostly joking. I would only even consider it for the winter to help a little with range.

Also, I ordered the P3D+, because the brake calipers are better, disks are better, pads can be upgraded, and the shocks and springs can be upgraded. And, I really really want the track mode. I'm not a big fan of the 20" wheels, but figure I can probably sell them to someone who is interested. I'm likely to get my car just before winter. So, I"ll need a set of winter wheels and tires nearly immediately.

 

[GTIceman]

Most people that buy BMW M cars never track them. Those that buy M cars with carbon ceramic brakes certainly dont track 90% of the time due to cost, not the same here. I would buy another base M3 and load it up myself before spending money on a competition package from them.

I like the better brakes though Tesla is offering.

 

[Tifighter]

Running 19"'s all around is definitely better. I was mostly joking. I would only even consider it for the winter to help a little with range.

Also, I ordered the P3D+, because the brake calipers are better, disks are better, pads can be upgraded, and the shocks and springs can be upgraded. And, I really really want the track mode. I'm not a big fan of the 20" wheels, but figure I can probably sell them to someone who is interested. I'm likely to get my car just before winter. So, I"ll need a set of winter wheels and tires nearly immediately.

Seems like the Q3/Q4 timing of the P deliveries is going to sell a lot more winter wheel packages.

 

[Msjulie]

Not paying an additional $11k for a “sleeper”

Funny ... see my sig... I will likely do some minor tweaking to mine but no 20" rims for me

I saw a white on white Performance + and it was quite the looker I must admit..

 

[TheLocNar]

Seems like the Q3/Q4 timing of the P deliveries is going to sell a lot more winter wheel packages.

I just didn't go with a Tesla branded package, since they haven't f'n told us if the 19s would even fit over that 3mm lip on the P+ hub. lol

Took my business elsewhere.

 

[SD_Engnr]

I just didn't go with a Tesla branded package, since they haven't f'n told us if the 19s would even fit over that 3mm lip on the P+ hub. lol

Took my business elsewhere.

If I'm not mistaken, there was confirmation that the 19s fit. It's in one of the many threads discussing the P+, by a P3D+ owner who was looking to buy them from another M3 owner.

 

[TheLocNar]

If I'm not mistaken, there was confirmation that the 19s fit. It's in one of the many threads discussing the P+, by a P3D+ owner who was looking to buy them from another M3 owner.

I may very well could have missed that. The only issue would be milling for the lip the P+ has.

 

[SD_Engnr]

I may very well could have missed that. The only issue would be milling for the lip the P+ has.

I'll see if I can dig up the post, but I think that was also accounted for when the claim was made that they fit.

 

[SD_Engnr]

I may very well could have missed that. The only issue would be milling for the lip the P+ has.

From this image of the 19s, it looks like they will work.

P3D+ with OEM Sport 19’s?