A software problem, you say? Boy, sure would be nice if they could have resolved that with an OTA update....
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RobStark
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You can't be a libertarian and support someone with fascist tendencies like Trump. Thiel is more in Pinochet mould than Milton Friedman.
I have personally talked to several people on the waiting room who were upset and some of them left WITHOUT getting their car along with myself. BTW, I have a clear comparison from 4 years ago when I picked up my Model S, that process was nice, well prepared and organized. My wife and my friends are laughing at me for being such a fanboi of Tesla to put up with this -- they would have walked away from the purchase long ago. So no, I am not exaggerating at all. This is worse than haggling with stealerships.
ps; disclosure I am long TSLA with 100% of my retirement savings
You can read the entire saga of my delivery process and tell me if I'm really exaggerating by calling that chaotic: AWD delivery thread
You can also find many other stories that are even worse than mine in the Model 3 section of the forum.
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It would be foolish to waste the chairman spot on something that couldnt result in fruitful political alliance.
My #1 choice would be Tim Cook. #2's would be Lisa Su (AMD CEO) Jensen Huang (Nvidia CEO).
For #1, Elon just needs to apologize about Apple being Tesla's graveyard and all will be fine I'm sure.
RobStark
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Last year they delivered 25kQ world wide.
This year they will deliver 68k to US/Canada in this quarter plus 12k world wide..
Once profitable easier to expand distribution network.
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$TSLA news means shorts going to panic cover. Key levels above 287 304 322 355. If Musk never twitted going private, price now should have been around 355 level - that’s where it’s going now. Most ppl will probably ONLY play Oct5/12 calls. Smart ppl eyes on long term Jan calls.
$TSLA news means shorts going to panic cover. Key levels above 287 304 322 355. If Musk never twitted going private, price now should have been around 355 level - that’s where it’s going now. Most ppl will probably ONLY play Oct5/12 calls. Smart ppl eyes on long term Jan calls.
And here on Reddit, hardcore shorts are shitting on themselves, advising each other to give it all up. It’s gonna be so EPIC on Monday, I can’t wait!Schadenfreude from SA:
thedyslexicephelant
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So nothing came of the suit. There is no justice in the world.
georgefelix75
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Agree $20M is nothing compared to the loses from his antics. It was deliberate and willful. Make a joke out of the SEC.
samdehne
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The SEC proves that it is in cahoots with Tesla/Musk and the ilk of evil.
When you see what was done to Skilling and Madoff.. doesn't this demand
the highest punishment possible.. times 5?
Skil and Mad were peanuts in comparison to the broken laws here...
Diesel, Contributor
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In other words Elon Musk gets away with fraud.
Well, what did you expect? In America if you are wealthy and powerful you are a god who is beyond law and no one can touch you. If you want to become untouchable, beyond law and a god in America, just become rich.
Thirst 4 Yield
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Money always wins
412Bob
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Cannot believe the SEC settled for such a small amount. They will certainly have earned any criticism of their lack of effectiveness that undoubtedly will ensue.
uptick_rule_now
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shows the SEC does not want to work criminal cases. how anyone that evil and corrupt was allowed to buy their way out of this offense is a slap in the face of Justice. at least we still have the BK filling coming soon to take stock to zero
deercreekvols
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Reminds me of the "settlement" that Elizabeth Holmes was able to reach.
Resign as chairman but remain CEO. Got it.Nice work by the SEC. Collect the fine money and move on to the next case.Thanks for nothing.
Teddy Monster
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Musk got away with his crimes. This is unbelievable. He got away with it.
Jacjon0108
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Complete joke of punishment by SEC
Buddha1010
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I've lost respect for the SEC enforcement division. Looks like Elon played them for the wimps they are. Really sad.
The likelihood of a DoJ action is now nil. The rich, white and entitled ruling class wins again. Just like gravity, there's no escaping this truism.
To be fair, many of them are consoling themselves with the "inevitable" DOJ caseSurely the world will see "justice" when that happens!
“To all shorts out there it's time to let it go. The fraud will carry on and no amount of facts will change it. When you've got the federal government protecting it there's no way you can win.”
Vague accusations 7 days before the elections. Yeah, I'm good with not adding hearsay that started out on facebook into my mental database. You'd be wise to take that with a grain of salt yourself. That word is being thrown around so much it has basically lost meaning. Additionally, if that's enough evidence for you, it's obvious all contrarian thinkers (including Elon Musk) may cross the invisible line at any time. This is not good.
sundaymorning
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You may not find it credible, but I do. Apparently accusing someone of being a racist is now worse than racist acts by those people.
I guess you also find Kavanaugh innocent.
Dream list...would conflict of interest be an issue? Apple and nvda are competing with tsla in self driving.
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I agree. Getting Peter to be chairman is similar to having Kavanaugh as a SC judge. For some racism is just a minor irritation, but for others it’s life threatening.
I’m ready. Loaded up on Friday. The future is here, and...
“...you hear that Mr. Naysayer? It is the sound of inevitability.”
The paradigm shift is full-blown and it’s about damn time. Oil and the conventional grid as we know it is dying a slow death that will soon accelerate and reach a breakneck pace not seen since the conventional grid took its form over a 40 year period from the 1890s through the 1930s. What a great time to be alive.....!
“...you hear that Mr. Naysayer? It is the sound of inevitability.”
The paradigm shift is full-blown and it’s about damn time. Oil and the conventional grid as we know it is dying a slow death that will soon accelerate and reach a breakneck pace not seen since the conventional grid took its form over a 40 year period from the 1890s through the 1930s. What a great time to be alive.....!
If the cars at “stealerships” were better than a Tesla, I’d go to the “stealership”. After all, the buying experience is 1% of the total experience of owning a car. But seeing as how I enjoy my Tesla better than any other vehicle, I’d endure some inconvenience at the time of purchase to get one. (I already own a Model S and the buying experience was great.)
For people who say to throw in the towel and laugh at you because you want a better car and are willing to deal with growing pains, seems odd. So they would rather have a crappier vehicle just to save them a few hours during the purchase process? Now THAT seems crazy to me. Not to mention they would end up spending many times those amount of hours for refueling, maintenance and oil changes over the life of the vehicle.
Quote of the day, courtesy of Martin Luther King, Jr. but appears to have existed before he said it in a famous speech:
"The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice."
"The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice."
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