I think the difference is net vs. gross.
I'm agnostic on what's going on with this, but, would like Elon spilling some rather bullish beans on this if they exist.
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I think the difference is net vs. gross.
Thanks. This is confirming evidence of the strategy. A lot of these are suppliers of essentially commodity items and it would be easy to switch sources. Norsk Hydro for instance. It's also notable that Tesla buys from both KUKA and FANUC -- not sole-source. There are several with such big percentages of revenue from Tesla that they'd never cause trouble. Apart from them, seat controls and suspension look like the largest items which would be problematic to switch suppliers, though I might have missed some on a quick glance.here is supply chain relationship between tesla and it’s suppliers (well the biggest ones anyway)
sorted by revenue to the supplier
also the last column shows tesla’s % of cogs
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sorry it’s hard to see
Good to know. The question in my mind is whether Tesla will want to do substantial exporting. Honestly I have been underwhelmed with the size of this GF, just 500k. I would like China to be able to produce 1M and export half. Maybe that is still in the cards. We have not learned much about the opportunity to expand capacity beyond 500k at this new site. Or maybe someday China will host multiple GFs. Perhaps when the government realizes that this foreign-owned company can drive exports from Chinese workers and domestic supply chains, it will be more accommodating.However, the agreement announcement contains language permitting export of vehicles. Given China's growing influence through infrastructure and consequent agreements with adjacent countries, that could easily grow into an equal-sized market. (Border with Russia, too!)
Edit: This assumes, of course, that he Chinese government has interest in exports, in contrast to some countries I have heard of.
Elon Musk said:That's why I was looking forward to clarify what these things mean. Q4 is when we expect to be on or about 20%. Then – but by the middle of next year, 25% gross margin should be where we are. And then, we'll also try to get to the high-20s by the next year.
Wow, where are you getting this? Kinda awesome if it's reliable?here is supply chain relationship between tesla and it’s suppliers (well the biggest ones anyway)
sorted by revenue to the supplier
also the last column shows tesla’s % of cogs
View attachment 316164
sorry it’s hard to see
He seems to be "old news". Not even a decent drop in the stock price when that was reported.Looks like we will have more of the tripp story to look forward to this week...
Ex-Tesla Worker Escalates Legal Battle by Blowing Whistle to SEC
Clearly you don’t understand the difference between going broke or bankrupt,Not true. Even without debt you can still run out of cash if you have negative operating margins. Tesla is in no position to buy back debt or stock. It needs all the cash it can borrow, beg, or raise. Hopefully those operating margins will tip positive soon.
Looks like we will have more of the tripp story to look forward to this week...
Ex-Tesla Worker Escalates Legal Battle by Blowing Whistle to SEC
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When I look at these posts, what comes to mind?
@Wooloomooloo didn't say anything extreme, definitely does not exhibit trolling behavior(like Firebird), and for saying there's an atmosphere of extreme intolerance and over-defensiveness got scolded with a pretty mean dose of bullying from somebody claiming that b/c I've been here for years I("we"???) know better and don't need any newbies around on the forum, essentially claiming rights of ownership of the forum?
This is indeed very toxic and appaling for new members joining the forum to see. He gets bunch of loves and likes. So, this raises question of how many people here are just like him. No disagrees there.
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@Moderatefan, you made me feel bad I did not disagree with original post, and that I have just dashed out verbal disagreement.You do not speak for everyone here.
I very much like considered bear arguments.
Yes, Elon is using undisclosed precog tech to divine that Tripp would be a whistleblower whereby he fired him before he had actual blown a whistle.Is he trying to get retroactive whistler-blower status?
It isn't really new information since it has all been reported publicly already. (Unless he is providing more information than has previously been reported.)
I read the story as Dana Hull needing another paycheque, and merely shilling all the previous stuff for easy $$$.Is he trying to get retroactive whistler-blower status?
It isn't really new information since it has all been reported publicly already. (Unless he is providing more information than has previously been reported.)
yes i though about this after posting.Wow, where are you getting this? Kinda awesome if it's reliable?
Mod: have to ask if it's licensed or copyrighted material... if so please don't post it, it's against the terms of service and opens TMC to possible liability. In any case please attribute it. --ggr.
Interesting development — the SEC ought to have the power to subpoena Tripp’s files & documents that Tesla filed to have protected...Looks like we will have more of the tripp story to look forward to this week...
Ex-Tesla Worker Escalates Legal Battle by Blowing Whistle to SEC
Mod: Regrettable but correct. Thanks. --ggryes i though about this after posting.
i think you are correct... i will remove. it was from my friends B.B. terminal, which is most likely not allowed. apologies.
OK, followup.. this is getting weird. Shortvolume.com has the *same short sale volume* reported as Fintel. It has *different total volume*.
Huh. So I look up the volume on Tradingview for July 5, and I get roughly 17 million. Fintel thinks it's 34 million. This is suspiciously twice as large, meaning I think Fintel is counting buys and sells separately (i.e. doubling the volume, since every trade is a buy and a sell). But then shortvolume.com thinks total volume is 9 million, which seems suspiciously like half of 17 million.
So I check Yahoo for volume, which agrees with Tradingview.
So it turns out shortvolume and fintel are both wrong. Shortvolume has the short percentage twice as high as it really is, and fintel has is HALF as high as it really is. So for yesterday, 7/10/2018, shortvolume said 61.4%, Fintel said 15.3%, and it's actually 30.6%.
Thanks for leading to this useful piece of detective work!
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