If it is actually a complete VIN (possibly when decoded, some VIN references are base64 encoded) with all the digits then if historical trends from Continental Europe still apply, it's on a ship that should arrive in a week or two weeks.
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If it is actually a complete VIN (possibly when decoded, some VIN references are base64 encoded) with all the digits then if historical trends from Continental Europe still apply, it's on a ship that should arrive in a week or two weeks.
Canceling and reordering will give you a new RN number. For the first RWD/LR orders in Europe that change of RN seem not to matter a lot at the end: of course, you did still end up behind the people with an early registration and an early RN, but early reservation holders that had already sent €3000 Tesla's way did end up getting just behind (there's always the risk that you might walk away, and Tesla would not like to hand you money back).
But that sort order was only between you and the other people who actually ordered the exact same configuration. Having a car with a matching configuration that was on a boat turned out to be far more important.
They're not going to stop deliveries to the rest of Europe just before Q2 ends just so that the UK can get more cars, so that's probably an unwarranted assumption.
When I do that sort of A-B testing I aim not to piss off the 50% that chose A when my research tells me that B is the one to sell ..
They don't have a dealer network and the internal sales and delivery people have no visibility about the decisions taken by the great magical black box in Fremont that makes pricing decisions and assigns VINs.
Tesla are not very good at communicating changes in directions or softening the blows, I'll grant you that. You should have seen the chaos in Germany with the RWD/LR orders, foisted upon the customer base the least prepared to take it all with a Zen attitude. My ordering process was not exactly a bed of roses either, requiring nerves of steel and a lot of patience...but I never got angry: never attribute to malice what can be explained by mere incompetence -- or said more charitably, growing pains.
A lot of this is caused by the fact that Tesla sells first and only then builds the supporting service and delivery infrastructure. And they have to, growing at the pace they're growing.
If you don't want that, then you have to wait for one of the established players to come up with a competing car that's as good. Audi and Hyundai were actually in the running despite my Model 3 reservation, but both of them messed up even more than Tesla did (unreasonable delivery times for both, poor efficiency, range and user interface in Audi's case). Perhaps that in 2021 I'd have ended up with an ID.x, but perhaps by that time the Tesla Model Y might would have been more interesting and Tesla's teething problems might not be there anymore either.
Yeah, once they are more demand constrained than production constrained a lot of it is going to have to change.
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WannabeOwner
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Yeah, only a guess. For example (if it made sense for Tesla to do so) they could convert the line to 100% RHD for a short period, or have a boat come direct to UK port ...
... but that would swamp service centres in the UK doing the deliveries, whereas spreading deliveries across EU means back-log fulfilment of UK takes longer, but doesn't overload delivery specialists etc.
But figuring out WHY Tesla does something aint an exact science of course
WannabeOwner
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The only thing I have seen @Peteski wanting is the original, before-increase, price of the FSD option. (I might have missed the point though .. .wouldn't be the first time ...)
yeah, maybe some people would forego that to get the new low-price for the rest of P-model ... but ... I don't think ti would be unreasonable for Tesla to honour that original FSD price and, based on past history, that is exactly the sort of Goodwill that they have done in the past ... but never in a timescale that gave people confidence that it was going to turn out that way.
I got a call from Tesla yesterday asking if would free to collect the car early to mid July and she said I would be one of the earliest people to receive it. My final invoice appeared this morning along with my VIN and delivery / collection date of July 10th.
My take is completely rational. I have a contract that allows me a full refund before delivery. Tesla have now suddenly reduced the price by £5k making my current contract look like a bit of a joke. So the rational thing for me to do is to demand the new lower pricing or cancel my order and start all over again. Or do you think I should really consider paying £5k more than someone who ordered the same car today? What would you do my friend? The only people in my shoes that will see their order for a P3+ through are those willing to pay a £5k premium to get the car a bit earlier and those who don't even realise there has been a price drop.
No that wasn't me. I never wanted FSD. I just ordered a P3+ and now want the revised lower pricing applying to my order. But apparently that's unreasonable.
You can get it: just ask your internal sales advisor to cancel the order and make a new one -- over here they will gladly oblige, and in some cases even try to prevent it from affecting delivery times (but there is a limit to what they can do). But apparently that's unreasonable.
To be honest, since you have no VIN assigned, they could just cancel your order and make a new one and tell you that delivery times would be unaffected, and there would be no way for you to know whether the change affected the delivery time.
To be honest, since you have no VIN assigned, they could just cancel your order and make a new one and tell you that delivery times would be unaffected, and there would be no way for you to know whether the change affected the delivery time.
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You can always cancel and reorder, but you can't always mix and match (like cancel an order to get a better price on the base model but then insist they honour your original price for an option that has become more expensive).
Quite, that's perfectly rational. What I would find irrational is to cancel the order and walk away. Canceling the order and walking away "until the dust settles" would not make your car appear sooner, and given the current pricing, I'd be more inclined to think that prices might go up from here; I'd be expecting the P- to stay priced as is but the Performance Upgrade to increase in price so that P+PUP creeps back up a bit closer to its former price. Or there might be a production squeeze on the front motor that might make them increase P- prices again.
If buying Tesla has taught me and some colleagues a thing, it's that the dust never settles. "Buying low" is an art form and it almost feels like trying to buy shares on the stock market
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I'm not disagreeing. I just feel like they are pissing me about and the "experimental" spec and pricing changes are frankly putting me off committing to buying one of the first batch of UK cars. I'm now thinking I'll wait a few months for things to pan out and let early buyers get ripped off as was the case with early US sales, especially P models. They haven't even got their act together with UK finance options yet, so I just think it's too much of a gamble at this point. It's easy for me to wait as I have a nice Model X to cruise around in! Tesla are great cars, but sales is a complete disaster at the moment. First there was the dramatic £30k price drop for the P100D leaving recent owners high and dry on future residuals and now all this smoke and mirrors. The good news is that prices are at least coming down for the higher performance models.
The rationale here is that Tesla clearly don't currently have a clue how to price or spec the M3 for the UK market. I don't need the car desperately so I can afford to wait until the spec and pricing at least stabilises for a few months. Ideally I also want a tow bar which will inevitably become an option on P- cars at some point in the near future. White seats are likely to be re-instated too.
RjbT3
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When did you place your reservation?
I reserved mine on April 3rd 2016 and ordered on May 7th (because I was traveling ) and haven't heard a dicky bird from anyone. Originally one rep said I should be one of the first in July, since then nothing.
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