I did the calculation the same way.
at 51% soc, projected 137miles with average 262wh/mile.
137/0.51*262=70.38kwh
it looks like the usable battery size is around 70KWH.
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USA MY RWD has soft limited LR battery!
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at 51% soc, projected 137miles with average 262wh/mile.
137/0.51*262=70.38kwh
it looks like the usable battery size is around 70KWH.
ucmndd
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Interesting.
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Tesla now lists all Model 3 variants eligible for the full $7,500 IRA tax credit, although the RWD base version is made with Chinese LFP cells, and here's whywww.autoevolution.com
I don’t really see how that would work though - I think it’s a safe assumption that Tesla sells many many more LRs and RWDs than Performance models so “averaging out” wouldn’t seem to work in this case.
My assumption has been that the loophole was “manufacturing” the packs in the US with loose cells from China.
Maybe both.
It doesn't matter where the cells come from, it matters where the minerals that go into the cells came from. And they just had to meet the minimums; that are 30%, or 40% I don't recall exactly, for 2023. If the minerals in the LR pack are 100% from "good" countries that offsets a lot of minerals sourced from the "bad" countries.I don’t really see how that would work though - I think it’s a safe assumption that Tesla sells many many more LRs and RWDs than Performance models so “averaging out” wouldn’t seem to work in this case.
My assumption has been that the loophole was “manufacturing” the packs in the US with loose cells from China.
ven7782
Member
I'm also seeing the same. When I bought mine two weeks ago, it was full of RWDs and now it's just two demo vehicles
E90alex
Active Member
Usual end of the quarter and end of the year stuff. They blow out the inventory and wait for new shipments next quarter.
Tesla does not seem to keep the factories at a steady pace throughout the year. Factories shut or slow down at the end of the quarter for maintenance or upgrades. Production ramps up again next quarter. Rinse and repeat.
Curious how battery degradation would occur with software locked battery? say after 1 yr...2% loss.. would it show 260 *.98 = decrease in software locked range to 254.8? would it base on entire battery degradation? And how would warranty even work.. with software lock.. would they just remove software lock to get it over 70%. I did pull trigger on rwd and picking it up saturday 
Yep.
Yep.
Probably not. Warranty would kick in when range was reported below 182.
Mrbrock
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Didn’t the M3 LR get switched to LFP? It was not able to be ordered for many months and was undergoing a swap to LFP which is why SR and LR are now not eligible. And it has the same range as the MY LR which is a drop from the range before it disappeared. All 2170 cells produced in Reno were going to LR MY and M3P/MYP.
If the above is true, then what we likely have here is a way to meter out all the leftover 2170 M3 LR packs since they don’t have enough power to go into the LR MY. Once they are used up, the SR will disappear again.
Mrbrock
Well-Known Member
They will run the battery report in service mode and see if degradation is reported higher than 30%. Indicated range is not a true sign of degradation.
E90alex
Active Member
No. There are zero Tesla LR cars worldwide with LFP battery. There’s simply not enough energy with LFP to provide the range for LR.
The 2023 Model 3 LR is using LG 2170 cells, same cells that have been used in European Teslas for a few years now.
Mrbrock
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It was just a thing. So why did range drop from 354 to 333? Smaller pack? Just trying to make sense of they’d software limit M3 packs and not use MY packs.
No, they did not.
The LG pack is ~ 4% smaller than the panasonic 2170L.
The rest of the range decrease we need to wait until (if) we get to see the EPA test data.
No. It is believed to have been switched to LG NMC cells in the US (formerly Panasonic NCA cells). Capacity is a little less, although degradation appears to be less as well.
