rayfound
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Tesla runs a dutch auction. The prices always start high and come down to establish market price.
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Used Model X buying help
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Mbrockus
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Mbrockus
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Lemon Law cars must have a note on the title. Use a service like CarFax to check the VIN.
Akikiki
A'-Lo-HA ! y'all
How many people know that? How many people ask to see the title before they agree to buy the car? I don't mean, they see the seller waving the title in hand from afar, so they know the seller has the title. Specifically, you think people say "Hey, we are getting close to doing some business here, let me see the title so I know its not a lemon?"
rayfound
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I have to assume most people (like me) buying an X want the 6-seat, which pushes you with tan/white interior to $92,900+$1200 Fees = $94k+... compared to my 2016 I bought for $61,900... I mean I get for some people $30,000 isn't a deal breaker, but we were barely willing to spend in the 60s for a car, let alone the 70s, 80s, 90s.... And I still get nearly new tires, 4yr/50k warranty... but settle for 257mi rated range(which works for our family).
This is my biggest worry as a potential buyer, like you I just want to close my eyes, jump in and buy one "hoping for the best". Normally, private sale is where you should worry the most esp. with how it was driven, maintained or issues not being disclosed, yet in many instances I've read here it's Tesla who has been worse to deal with. The more I read the less I believe that Tesla is better than normal dealerships and their shady 'tactics' to get the sale.
Hopefully and I assume will happen, Tesla will offer something to offset that loss esp. since the S and X have slowed in sales dramatically.
Akikiki
A'-Lo-HA ! y'all
Has anyone had a bad plumber or bad dentist? How about a bad auto mechanic or teacher? There’s bad, good and better people doing their jobs in every field. Yep, even senators and presidents. And even the good ones have bad days that make them appear during a snapshot of time to be bad all the time.
So it’s reasonable that people working for auto dealerships, and for Tesla in the stores and delivery centers to have good and bad people. Heaven forbid, but some Tesla employees may even have come from other dealerships and brought with them their bad habits and methods. These are humans, they make mistakes and they don’t learn how to be a perfect delivery specialist or a perfect sales associate as though they came off an assembly line.
And the cars. These are not hand made cars. Yes there’s going to be mistakes and gaps. Looking for a guarantee that every Tesla has no gaps or bad paint marks? None of us that have a Tesla would be able to afford them.
Tesla used to sell Certified Pre-Owned Model S and X. I’ve seen a few of them. A three year old car looked perfect and had a 70 point inspection. Since the body trim for 4 years have been the same (twice), it was difficult to tell it was 3 years old or 6 months. They looked great. And I think, Tesla learned they cannot maintain that level of cleanup and still sell more cars as they produced new ones. So, they stopped being CPO’s and became used cars. And now people complain loud about the gaps and paint on new Tesla's as they do on used Tesla's.
Let’s try to be more understanding and forgiving when the new and used Tesla delivery specialist, that looks like they graduated from high school last week, don’t treat us like royalty or the buyer of the 1 billionth built Tesla. Fifteen minutes after you are driving your new Tesla, you likely will have forgotten that experience as you drive your great Tesla home.
So it’s reasonable that people working for auto dealerships, and for Tesla in the stores and delivery centers to have good and bad people. Heaven forbid, but some Tesla employees may even have come from other dealerships and brought with them their bad habits and methods. These are humans, they make mistakes and they don’t learn how to be a perfect delivery specialist or a perfect sales associate as though they came off an assembly line.
And the cars. These are not hand made cars. Yes there’s going to be mistakes and gaps. Looking for a guarantee that every Tesla has no gaps or bad paint marks? None of us that have a Tesla would be able to afford them.
Tesla used to sell Certified Pre-Owned Model S and X. I’ve seen a few of them. A three year old car looked perfect and had a 70 point inspection. Since the body trim for 4 years have been the same (twice), it was difficult to tell it was 3 years old or 6 months. They looked great. And I think, Tesla learned they cannot maintain that level of cleanup and still sell more cars as they produced new ones. So, they stopped being CPO’s and became used cars. And now people complain loud about the gaps and paint on new Tesla's as they do on used Tesla's.
Let’s try to be more understanding and forgiving when the new and used Tesla delivery specialist, that looks like they graduated from high school last week, don’t treat us like royalty or the buyer of the 1 billionth built Tesla. Fifteen minutes after you are driving your new Tesla, you likely will have forgotten that experience as you drive your great Tesla home.
rayfound
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I think your admonition to be courteous and forgiving to the employees we come across is valid, and good advice for how to treat people of all ALL service industries.
But the reality is that it isn't their fault... TESLA, organizationally, is absolutely garbage at managing the service process. They had systems that maybe worked before their fleet size more than doubled in less than 18 months, but now their systems are obviously over taxed, their employees are obviously over-constrained by process, and the communication structures are completely broken.
Mbrockus
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The OP asked for advise and we are all providing them advise. You're right not everyone knows to ask but if I have a chance to educate then by golly I will.
