It's a helluva mid-life crisis car! :biggrin:
I maxed mine out, knowing full well that I'd never push the limits of what a P85+ can provide for performance. I may get a friend to take me on a test track so that I can see what the car is really capable of doing. But even in ordinary driving, the handling and acceleration are a total thrill!
The set of compromises that were also important for me: being able to carry 5+2 passengers. Ability to configure for large cargo load. Adjustable suspension height for dealing with a wider range of situations. Zero emissions. No apologies (in terms of looks, performance, range, etc.) for an electric car. Reasonable for the wife to drive. Lots of other options in this price range had less appealing trade-offs, e.g., fewer passengers, worse performance characteristics, restricted cargo load. In other words, I needed to balance "mid-life crisis" with "practical family car". Strange to use those phrases in the same sentence.
Re kids -- in my experience, kids LOVE the rear-facing seats! Tinting the hatch and pano have been critical to comfort, though, as the rear-facing seats are poorly ventilated. My 9-year old boy loves being able to configure the seating, pop himself in, close the hatch, strap himself into the four-point belt, and then spend the trip in his own world. I notice that other drivers wind up smiling and waving to him. Other kids love it, too. My wife and I love it because it puts some additional room between us and the kids. The downside of THAT is that when you do need to talk to them, you'll find yourself yelling -- it's a big car! I didn't agree with the comments one poster made about booster seats. The seats are rated up to 77 pounds for each kid, plus you have to take height into account. So I'm guessing that a lot of kids will fit up until 10-11 years of age and/or exceeding the weight. My boy is on the small side, so he may make it to 11 or beyond. And speaking of booster seats, other observers have noted that the car allows three booster seats side-by-side in the regular rear seat!
Re tires -- hell, it's a mid-life crisis car! Get the 21s. If you discover that you really dislike the tire cost, you can always sell the 21s and just rely on the 19s you've bought anyway for the winter. With the 21s, you'll have summer performance tires and then winter tires. If you switch permanently to 19s, you could minimize cost by doing all-seasons or you could compromise with a summer tire and a winter tire.
The only thing I wouldn't repeat from my purchase configuration would be the Tesla Paint Armor. While I have come to be a big believer in paint protection film, the Tesla Paint Armor ultimately looked to me as poor in total coverage; didn't like the visible bra line across the hood; and there seemed to be some application issues (pointed out by my detailer). So I'd take the money I put into the Tesla paint armor and put it into a good third-party detailer, using Xpel or something like that.
One other thing -- the high-power wall charger and the twin chargers are a debatable investment for a lot of people. For me, I liked the convenience of the wall charger rather than fumbling the included charging cable into/out of the trunk. And I'm running extra amps into my house so I can drive the HPWC at full 80A power, for minimum charging times. The twin chargers are definitely helpful on the road, when you find higher-powered (but non Supercharger) chargers. Over time, it's a good bet that the number of 70A & 80A chargers out there will increase, so I view the twin chargers as a good investment. The HPWC is arguably more about convenience.
Enjoy!
I maxed mine out, knowing full well that I'd never push the limits of what a P85+ can provide for performance. I may get a friend to take me on a test track so that I can see what the car is really capable of doing. But even in ordinary driving, the handling and acceleration are a total thrill!
The set of compromises that were also important for me: being able to carry 5+2 passengers. Ability to configure for large cargo load. Adjustable suspension height for dealing with a wider range of situations. Zero emissions. No apologies (in terms of looks, performance, range, etc.) for an electric car. Reasonable for the wife to drive. Lots of other options in this price range had less appealing trade-offs, e.g., fewer passengers, worse performance characteristics, restricted cargo load. In other words, I needed to balance "mid-life crisis" with "practical family car". Strange to use those phrases in the same sentence.
Re kids -- in my experience, kids LOVE the rear-facing seats! Tinting the hatch and pano have been critical to comfort, though, as the rear-facing seats are poorly ventilated. My 9-year old boy loves being able to configure the seating, pop himself in, close the hatch, strap himself into the four-point belt, and then spend the trip in his own world. I notice that other drivers wind up smiling and waving to him. Other kids love it, too. My wife and I love it because it puts some additional room between us and the kids. The downside of THAT is that when you do need to talk to them, you'll find yourself yelling -- it's a big car! I didn't agree with the comments one poster made about booster seats. The seats are rated up to 77 pounds for each kid, plus you have to take height into account. So I'm guessing that a lot of kids will fit up until 10-11 years of age and/or exceeding the weight. My boy is on the small side, so he may make it to 11 or beyond. And speaking of booster seats, other observers have noted that the car allows three booster seats side-by-side in the regular rear seat!
Re tires -- hell, it's a mid-life crisis car! Get the 21s. If you discover that you really dislike the tire cost, you can always sell the 21s and just rely on the 19s you've bought anyway for the winter. With the 21s, you'll have summer performance tires and then winter tires. If you switch permanently to 19s, you could minimize cost by doing all-seasons or you could compromise with a summer tire and a winter tire.
The only thing I wouldn't repeat from my purchase configuration would be the Tesla Paint Armor. While I have come to be a big believer in paint protection film, the Tesla Paint Armor ultimately looked to me as poor in total coverage; didn't like the visible bra line across the hood; and there seemed to be some application issues (pointed out by my detailer). So I'd take the money I put into the Tesla paint armor and put it into a good third-party detailer, using Xpel or something like that.
One other thing -- the high-power wall charger and the twin chargers are a debatable investment for a lot of people. For me, I liked the convenience of the wall charger rather than fumbling the included charging cable into/out of the trunk. And I'm running extra amps into my house so I can drive the HPWC at full 80A power, for minimum charging times. The twin chargers are definitely helpful on the road, when you find higher-powered (but non Supercharger) chargers. Over time, it's a good bet that the number of 70A & 80A chargers out there will increase, so I view the twin chargers as a good investment. The HPWC is arguably more about convenience.
Enjoy!
Great feedback. I know a tesla owner of a P60 out in California and we have talked at length and he loves it and it probably wouldnt hurt to have conversations with more owners... i am considering the p85+. What is the big difference between the two? I want performance and don't mind spending extra on tires/year to have a fun year... this is intended to be my midlife crisis car.. i am planning ahead.