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Thanks for the jalopnik link. Here's hoping that Elon holds to the promise of a "more simple Model 3" and possibly more importantly, a single, conventional Model 3 at launch.
If Tesla shows a variety of options alongside the simple (base?) version in March, would some of the more unscrupulous websites focus on these less conventional features as a way to misrepresent and dismiss the 3 as "just a weirdmobile".
Really looking forward to seeing how Tesla launch this one
SW2Fiddler
We Are Cognitive Dissidents
True, they didn't say the 3 and Y would be released at the same time, only "Tesla Gen III Sedan And Crossover" :
But "one of the two" is planned to have falcon wings... So that one should be expected later than the rear-driven, normal-doored, model.
I'd be extremely surprised if they launched two new models at the same time. I expect that they'll launch the Model 3 and get that ramped up and the bugs worked out before releasing the Model Y. Tesla needs to concentrate on making the Model 3 successful since it's going to be their bread and butter. Releasing the Model Y at the same time would risk biting off more than they can chew and put the success of the model 3 in jeopardy.
MassModel3
Member
A agree that they likely won't launch both at the same time, but I would not be surprised it they introduced both in March at the same time.
The question in my mind is whether the SUV version of the Model 3 will carry the Model 3 name, or if it will be the Model Y. They've gone on record that they're planning both a sedan and crossover version of the Model 3, but then Elon's also gone on record that either that Model 3 or the Model Y will likely have falcon wing doors. Does this mean that there will be a crossover version of the Model 3, and there will also be a Model Y (possibly based on that same platform) that will be an entirely different model from the Model 3 crossover?
No, that is not correct. J.B. had an error in one slide that said "Model 3 sedan and crossover". That slide has later been corrected to "Gen-III sedan and crossover" (or was it "sedan and cuv"?). The Gen-III sedan is on record to been named "Model 3". While we don't have anything recorded about "Gen-III crossover" but we know that there is a "Model Y" coming, and it will be of the Gen-III platform and have the falconwing doors. So it is relatively safe to guess that the Gen-III crossover/cuv will be named "Model Y".
And later added "I was of course talking about the Model Y"
MassModel3
Member
Ah, yes, JB did refer to it as Gen-III. Very important distinction. Thank you for the correction.
Elon has said a lot of things. We're the ones who are picking certain statements "for the record". Much like we choose to see a family resemblance across the current Tesla line-up and expect the next cars to echo the S and the X, instead of maybe taking a left into a different design direction.
I hope Tesla presents something fairly conventional in March and that a 200 mile real-world range (there I go again - choosing "200 miles" as "on the record") will be achievable for a) the 35k price and b) without making it look unlike any other car on the road - which Elon has also said.
But I could be wrong. Maybe 200 mile real-world range and 35k are proving to be mutually exclusive unless you do something unexpected with aerodynamics. Maybe this is why the Roadster 3.0 upgrade has yet to be seen. If we saw the body modifications we'd all lose our minds.
Since JB used the phrase "all new technology" maybe getting Model 3 right is proving to be just as challenging as engineering Falcon wing doors.
No wonder most people at Tesla are now working on the 3.
bigbear
Member
Is there any company that keeps secrets better than Tesla? Not one leak, come ooooooonnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!
Canuck
Well-Known Member
bigbear
Member
I am saying this here and now for future records to prove I am right.
Elon has a thing for the lotus from the spy who loved me (the best bond film BTW), the shape will be similar to it. People will go, "hey that looks a bit like the underwater car from that bond film..."
Elon has a thing for the lotus from the spy who loved me (the best bond film BTW), the shape will be similar to it. People will go, "hey that looks a bit like the underwater car from that bond film..."
bigbear
Member
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
I don't think that's the "Model 3 Leaks" that bigbear was hoping for.:biggrin:
But I like the idea suggested by 1208's choice of the Lotus i.e. take a fastback sedan but then do something unexpected with it.
bigbear
Member
I think what's often touted as a Model 3 mock-up is the narrower car still in frame. It's been speculated the right half of the car is the mock up for the SUV and the other side is the mock up for the sedan. The car that is partially out of frame looks like a Model S. It's wider than the car that might be the Model 3. The car with the people standing around it looks narrower than a Model S too.
