I am getting the Moderna vaccine tomorrow at Walmart. I am doing this more for self-interest than I am for a "duty to society." I am 64, and am close to that high risk demographic. I happened to be walking in the Walmart grocery store and came across a COVID vaccination sign at their pharmacy. I walked right up to inquire, and they told me I could get on a list. Told them my age and they were able to get me scheduled within a week. I would never support the idea of mandating the vaccine onto others. If they choose not to get vaccinated, their risk. They are no threat to me because I'm vaccinated.
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Which vaccine did you get?
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Not everyone can get vaccinated. Some people have compromised immune systems. I agree we shouldn't force everyone to get vaccinated. You should just need to get vaccinated if you want to leave your home and don't have a legit medical exemption. Wanna shop at Wally World w/o a mask? Need a vaccine. Wanna use public transit? Need a vaccine. Wanna work around others? Need a vaccine.
Then there's the possibility of eradicating the virus like we did with Small Pox. Can't do that if there's a reservoir of morons for it to hide in... Would you rather EVERYONE that can get vaccinated get vaccinated and we're done forever OR need to get a booster every X years so some new strain can't slip by and kill you?
I don’t personally know anyone who has died of Covid. I know quite a few that got pretty sick (3-4 months out of work). I do know someone who passed that had similar symptoms but also cancer and they refused Covid tests.
I know three people that still have no sense of taste or smell. Once since April of last year.I don’t get out much, so that’s a fair % of the people I know.
My wife’s a doctor. Her experience matches the stats. Very very small % have died, larger group have ongoing issues, most recover without problems.
Anyway, I do home science keeps improving preventative measures like vaccines and also continues to improve treatments. Things have come a long way since the first few months when nothing was known and there was no real treatment plan. Experience goes a long way in medicine (and life).
I know three people that still have no sense of taste or smell. Once since April of last year.I don’t get out much, so that’s a fair % of the people I know.
My wife’s a doctor. Her experience matches the stats. Very very small % have died, larger group have ongoing issues, most recover without problems.
Anyway, I do home science keeps improving preventative measures like vaccines and also continues to improve treatments. Things have come a long way since the first few months when nothing was known and there was no real treatment plan. Experience goes a long way in medicine (and life).
We were able to eradicate smallpox because there are no non-human reservoirs. SARS-COV-2 exists in non-human animal reservoirs, so we'll never eradicate it.
All the more reason for everyone to get vaccinated, to prevent further outbreaks. Measles was virtually eliminated through vaccination. Then morons like Jenny McCarthy started ranting and got a following, convincing people not to allow their kids to get the MMR vaccine and now kids are dying of measles again. Congratulations, Jenny: You have murdered countless children!
Parents who refuse to allow their kids to be vaccinated are not fit to be parents. They belong in jail and their kids belong with people who will actually care for them. Refusing to get your kids vaccinated is child abuse and should be illegal. And spreading anti-vax lies should be treated exactly the same as shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater. Because the effect is the same: People are killed by anti-vax lies just as surely as people are trampled to death when crowds stampede.
SARS exists in non-human animal reservoirs but I don't think it's been confirmed that SARS-COV-2 does in a way that's easily transmissible to humans. It was was a spillover from some other animal... so was Small Pox. It doesn't necessarily mean the mutation that allows human to human transmission also exists in animal hosts. Small Pox was similar. It was probably a mutation of cow pox that spilled over from cows.
Smallpox is the only disease we've ever been able to eradicate completely. It seems unlikely that we will ever eradicate COVID-19. But we could control it though vaccination, if it were not for the anti-vax morons.
LostWages
uv has cured me
I will be getting first available vaccine.
I have friends with risk factors that are working with their doctors to choose a vaccine that minimizes their health risks. A friend who suffers from blood clots will be avoiding the AstraZeneca vaccine for now, for example.
I have friends with risk factors that are working with their doctors to choose a vaccine that minimizes their health risks. A friend who suffers from blood clots will be avoiding the AstraZeneca vaccine for now, for example.
We eradicated Rinderpest and we're SUPER close with Polio. Hopefully the new mRNA vaccines will improve our ability to fight influenza too. It's gonna be interesting to see how long it takes for that to bounce back. The covid lockdown meant it couldn't hop hemispheres like it usually does and flu cases dropped ~99%.
Wife's grandfather died of COVID-19. Wife's an ER doctor. She saw hundreds of covid-19 patients and several who died.
Everyone get your vaccine when you can.
I got the 2nd shot of Moderna a couple weeks ago. In my part of Virginia it was fortunately a very easy and quick process. Walk right in, answer questions for 30 seconds, poke ya, sit for 15 minutes to make sure you don't die, and walk out.
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Got my second shot - Pfizer - 3 days ago. Probably 4-5 hours later I felt some fatigue - although it was @9 at night. Went to bed @11 woke up fine. The sad part will be the selfish (absent real medical reason) people who do not get the vaccine and actually pass it on to someone who took it but is the 5% or someone who could not medically take it.
I never understand when people try to show the percentages like this. Is 500k dead not a large number? Even at 1.82%, seems pretty deadly to me considering we had to take quite a bit of preventative measures. And for certain portion of the population, that rate is higher... which is who we are trying to protect.
So this contradicts your own statement a bit. We don't know the long term effects of Covid-19 definitively either but studies seem to show that it can compromise your health long term. So to me, it's better to not get Covid-19 at all... which is why you should get the vaccine.
Disclosures: My cousin, a pharmacist, died from Covid-19 in December, just before the first vaccine was approved for usage... 100% fatality rate for her and 100% will mess up the life of her 12 year old daughter. It's just not about how many people actually die from Covid-19, it's also the overall affect of a pandemic on society (how do people quickly forget when hospitals were overrun and non-Covid cases were at risk?).
I got my first shot as soon as I was qualified... I wanted J&J due to convenience but I got Pfizer because that was the one that was available.
We got our second Pfizer shots yesterday. After reading stories here and elsewhere about reactions following second shots, we had prepared for feeling sickly afterwards (had easy food ready to go, Tylenol, etc.). Well, we're both doing fine 36 hours later. Both of us have soreness around the site but that's about it. My wife had none after the first shot and I had some soreness then. I do think the soreness after the second shot is more intense. Fortunately, it doesn't hurt constantly, which would be irritating, but only when I lift my arm straight up, bump it, or lay on it.
Our daughter had fever, chills, and just felt crappy starting around 18 hours after getting her J&J shot. It dissipated after several hours.
Our daughter had fever, chills, and just felt crappy starting around 18 hours after getting her J&J shot. It dissipated after several hours.
I think some of the injection site soreness might come down to the skill level of the person administering the shot. My first jab was done by a surgeon that had been roped into doing injections. Might have been a great surgeon but I doubt he'd done many shots and I bled a lot. So much that I brought a red towel for my second shot just in case. Fortunately a nurse did my second injection that probably does 40 vaccines of all kinds everyday... no bleeding and the soreness was gone the next day as opposed to lasting ~4 days after my first shot.
I don't know but I'm leaning towards the medicine causing the soreness. Of course, if someone screws up giving the shot then that can factor into soreness! I believe both of my shots were by nurses. The first had excellent technique and I didn't even realize it happened (she applied the antiseptic wipe and then the shot in rapid succession). I felt the second shot a tiny bit but my guess is that it was because there was a delay between the wipe and the shot, plus I was interested in why the first was completely painless so I was paying more attention. I asked the second nurse why it was so painless compared to other shots I've had and she said it was a combination of tiny needles and very little quantity injected.
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