panjouser
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Model S, Feb 2017 build with upgraded MCU2 and HW3 chip installed June 2020, but original AP2.0 cameras. Had a safety score of 100 since Wed and 1000+ miles but still no FSD download. Safety score still showing in the app.
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Source: Tesla AP1 vs AP2 vs AP3 - Difference between Autopilot versionsAutopilot 2 (AP2/HW2)
AP2 is the second generation autopilot hardware. The hardware for AP2 has been installed in the Model S and X vehicles from October 2016 to approximately August 2017. The hardware was developed by the company Nvidia. Compared to the AP1, the AP2’s computing unit has 40 times the computing power of its predecessor.
This hardware version of the autopilot has 8 cameras with RCCC color filter to display a 360-degree view around the vehicle. Improved ultrasonic sensors and a radar in the front supplement the information from the camera images. Model 3 vehicles with AP2 hardware do not exist, as Tesla had started to install only AP2.5 hardware in its new cars before the production start of Model 3. So, all Model 3 vehicles have at least AP2.5.
Tesla develops the software for the AP2 hardware itself. However, the departure from the AP1 supplier MobilEye significantly slowed the further development of the autopilot in 2016 and 2017. Even basic functions had to be completely reprogrammed for the new hardware which led to a massive delay in further development
I doubt they say a word, some day they will just start rolling it out or they won’t and hope everyone forgets until they get sued. There aren’t that many of us and we aren’t that loud. At least not yet. Still for some reason I am hoping for another wave tonight for refresh s and ap 2 owners. I will probably be disappointed.Source: Tesla AP1 vs AP2 vs AP3 - Difference between Autopilot versions
So for all of us with legacy cameras, but the FSD computer and MCU2, are we SOL??? Is FSD just on an extremely long/farther out timeline? Are we wasting our time with the SafetyScore BS?
If HW2 camera support is an extra year away, then what is the point? I would really love some transparency here.
I HAVE THE SAME QUESTIONExactly. Does anyone know if a single AP2 car got the FSD Beta? I couldn't find evidence of such...
No, and there are no refreshed MS LRs or Plaids with it either, even though the great EM tweeted all week that “All” with 100/100 scores would get it in the first roll out. Perhaps there was an * and fine print that we all missed….I HAVE THE SAME QUESTION
No, and there are no refreshed MS LRs or Plaids with it either, even though the great EM tweeted all week that “All” with 100/100 scores would get it in the first roll out. Perhaps there was an * and fine print that we all missed….
Yes, quite impressive, indeed.Tesla is the most innovative company in the world. They always innovate new ways to screw their customers. They somehow managed to piss off both early adopters and their newest and highest paying customers in one swoop. Really impressive.
hopefully they take new snapshots of the scores!I’ll chime in.
Model S P100D delivered Dec 30, 2016.
FSD paid for from day 1.
Did the “recommended” MCU/infotainment center upgrade last year.
Sitting on score of 100 although to be fully transparent I was at 99 on Friday and returned to 100 on Saturday.
I’m sorely disappointed and equally frustrated with the changing goalposts and overall absolute lack of communication from Tesla. I feel as though I have been immensely patient but I have no more benefit of the doubts to give. So many of the opinions already stated here, I echo completely.
You are confirming what I said. You had a 100 when Friday midnight rolled around.I had 100 with over 700 miles by Thursday night, I have never been under 100 and had to recover. There was no cut off, some people just got screwed.
Same, 2017 X w/AP 2.0 originally (now 3.0). That plus no yoke Teslas seem to be common themes. Hmmmmmm…That's correct! I got the MCU 2 upgrade done Nov 2020, and at the same time they installed the FSD computer (HW3) upgrade as well. So it wasn't previously AP 2.5 (I had no sentry mode prior to upgrade).
2021.32.25 is FSD betaFWIW, I have a Safety Score of 99 and noticed yesterday on my drive in to work that I have v10.2 (2021.32.22) installed. Is this not the Beta FSD?
2021.32.25 is what you need.FWIW, I have a Safety Score of 99 and noticed yesterday on my drive in to work that I have v10.2 (2021.32.22) installed. Is this not the Beta FSD?
I read the cut off/snapshot was around 2:30PM PDT on Friday.You are confirming what I said. You had a 100 when Friday midnight rolled around.