Will first V3 Supercharger be in California? UPDATE: looks like Fremont

[ecarfan]

I’m a Model 3 owner who would qualify for that invitation but haven’t received one. In any case, I’m on the road with my X and trailer, 400 miles from Fremont, so could not attend even if invited.

Updated the thread title.

Tesla releases first glimpse of Supercharger V3 ahead of launch in Fremont

 

[MP3Mike]

I’m a Model 3 owner who would qualify for that invitation but haven’t received one. In any case, I’m on the road with my X and trailer, 400 miles from Fremont, so could not attend even if invited.

So you are in the Early Access Program getting beta firmware versions? I thought you weren't even supposed to admit that.

 

[Zorg]

Wonder if it is related to the 40 stall permit they pulled a year ago with the city of Fremont. 40 SC v3 would be nice.

 

[SageBrush]

Wonder if it is related to the 40 stall permit they pulled a year ago with the city of Fremont. 40 SC v3 would be nice.

Remember alms.

I'll be happy with just 4.

 

[ecarfan]

So you are in the Early Access Program getting beta firmware versions? I thought you weren't even supposed to admit that.

I’m not supposed to discuss the beta firmware I receive. And I didn’t.

 

[McManX]

If so, I may not upgrade my X as soon as I'd been thinking. I was hoping the 100kWh packs would be eligible as well.

I’ve been thinking this for a while, no Tesla upgrades for me until superV3 compatibility

 

[Big Earl]

I suspect the existing never-commissioned Kato Road location or the permitted location at the factory. Are there any locals who are up for a scouting missing before tonight's big reveal?

 

[AMPd]

I suspect the existing never-commissioned Kato Road location or the permitted location at the factory. Are there any locals who are up for a scouting missing before tonight's big reveal?

I drove by the Kato rd location yesterday, the old supercharger posts that were there for years are gone.

 

[AMPd]

Wonder if it is related to the 40 stall permit they pulled a year ago with the city of Fremont. 40 SC v3 would be nice.

Weren’t those for the model 3 event?
They had all those Model 3’s parked at superchargers

 

[Lloyd]

is there a live feed for this event??

 

[Watts_Up]

Tonight Show: Frankenstrusk 8 pm​

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[Silicon Desert]

Well, having V3 is all fine and dandy, but I would be happy enough if we could just get the black holes filled with standard SCs in some parts of the USA where it is impossible to travel by superchargers. Like between Memphis and Oklahoma City on I40, and practically all of North Dakota. They've been promising that since 2 years ago.

 

[Big Earl]

Well, having V3 is all fine and dandy, but I would be happy enough if we could just get the black holes filled with standard SCs in some parts of the USA where it is impossible to travel by superchargers. Like between Memphis and Oklahoma City on I40, and practically all of North Dakota. They've been promising that since 2 years ago.

Those black holes are great candidates for v3 installations, since most of them are on long distance travel routes where high speed charging is most beneficial.

 

[ecarfan]

Those black holes are great candidates for v3 installations, since most of them are on long distance travel routes where high speed charging is most beneficial.

I don’t follow. Why is a V3 Supercharger more “beneficial” on long distance travel routes as compared to in urban/suburban areas?

 

[mociaf9]

I suspect the existing never-commissioned Kato Road location or the permitted location at the factory. Are there any locals who are up for a scouting missing before tonight's big reveal?

Yep, Kato Rd. 4 stalls; 250 kW max. Sourced from /u/rexorz on /r/TeslaMotors

 

[craigcabrey]

I don’t follow. Why is a V3 Supercharger more “beneficial” on long distance travel routes as compared to in urban/suburban areas?

I'd be willing to bet that these higher charge rates have a much more significant impact on the battery than the 72 kW sites (or even 120 kW sites for that matter).

 

[Big Earl]

I don’t follow. Why is a V3 Supercharger more “beneficial” on long distance travel routes as compared to in urban/suburban areas?

Higher likelihood of a warm battery that can actually accept that level of charge. Also, urban charging usually involves visiting shops ... faster charging would be less convenient if you pair your charging stops with shopping trips. Finally charging in urban environments will get visited more by locals. Higher C rate for frequent local charging will result in more degradation.

 

[ecarfan]

Higher likelihood of a warm battery that can actually accept that level of charge. Also, urban charging usually involves visiting shops ... faster charging would be less convenient if you pair your charging stops with shopping trips. Finally charging in urban environments will get visited more by locals. Higher C rate for frequent local charging will result in more degradation.

Urban charging is often done by people who have no home charging and they want to get in and out as fast as possible. Tesla firmware will control the charging so that the battery isn’t damaged. It would make no sense for the V3 Superchargers to cause battery damage. That would negatively impact Tesla’s warranty costs.

Tesla is going to be implementing a feature to pre-warm the battery when the nav destination is a V3 charger, so that could be done anywhere, not just on long trips. See https://electrek.co/2019/03/06/tesla-supercharger-v3-kw-capacity-efficiency/

 

[MP3Mike]

Tesla is going to be implementing a feature to pre-warm the battery when the nav destination is a V3 charger

Is it only when it is a V3 charger, or is it any Supercharger? (The blog post only says "Beginning this week, Tesla is rolling out a new feature called On-Route Battery Warmup. Now, whenever you navigate to a Supercharger station, your vehicle will intelligently heat the battery to ensure you arrive at the optimal temperature to charge, reducing average charge times for owners by 25%.")

So that sounds like it is any Supercharger.

 

[Watts_Up]

I'd be willing to bet that these higher charge rates have a much more significant impact
on the battery than the 72 kW sites (or even 120 kW sites for that matter).

When at a SuperCharger, can you select (lower or increase) the charging rate?

 

[MP3Mike]

When at a SuperCharger, can you select (lower or increase) the charging rate?

That hasn't ever been a feature.