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Will Tesla ever allow AP only vehicles to pay for a HW3 retrofit?

Will Tesla ever allow AP only vehicles to pay for a HW3 retrofit?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 22.7%
  • No

    Votes: 17 77.3%

  • Total voters
    22

willow_hiller

Active Member
Apr 3, 2019
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Before you say it, yes, I know there's no guarantee that an AP only vehicle would ever benefit from HW3. But:

1. I simply cannot afford $6,000+ in cash right now (promised the wife we'd pay off the loan before buying FSD).
2. Tesla presently sells a Home Link upgrade for $300 including installation. Presumably a HW3 retrofit could be done for around $500.
3. Having HW3 would improve the resale value of the vehicle.
4. Once all FSD owners are retrofitted, Tesla may stop offering retrofits as readily. I'd hate to be permanently stuck on HW2.5 for a car I may keep for 10+ years.

So: do you think Tesla would ever sell the HW3 retrofit to AP only vehicles?
 
Before you say it, yes, I know there's no guarantee that an AP only vehicle would ever benefit from HW3. But:

1. I simply cannot afford $6,000+ in cash right now (promised the wife we'd pay off the loan before buying FSD).
2. Tesla presently sells a Home Link upgrade for $300 including installation. Presumably a HW3 retrofit could be done for around $500.
3. Having HW3 would improve the resale value of the vehicle.
4. Once all FSD owners are retrofitted, Tesla may stop offering retrofits as readily. I'd hate to be permanently stuck on HW2.5 for a car I may keep for 10+ years.

So: do you think Tesla would ever sell the HW3 retrofit to AP only vehicles?

Let's be a bit more specific....

People who have HW2.5 vehicles and EAP will, IMHO, most probably benefit from HW3 at some point in future when Tesla start sending out software OTAs optimized for HW3. I think HW2.5 owners should be allowed to buy a HW2.5 -> HW3 upgrade, though I don't know if Tesla would offer it. Really depends on whether its a $1K update or a $3K upgrade, because if the upgrade is relatively expensive, it'd be more cost effective to just have the FSD option.

I don't know if people with just plain AP and HW2.5 would benefit for HW3. We won't know until people with AP and HW3 start getting OTAed with software optimized for HW3, however I'd presume there'd be some benefit at some time.
Since you have an hour of labor plus a new main board, I presume the cost of HW2.5 -> HW3 would be over $1K at retail price, maybe US$1.5K.

Heckuva good question of people with HW2. HW3 would be faster and presumably better, but its a much more significant upgrade. But I don't think there's many with HW2 and just AP, primarily with HW2 and EAP. Once Tesla have finished the FSD-related HW2 -> HW3 updates, assuming it happens, that's certainly something they should consider - productizing the upgrade.
Price will be an issue. With say 6+ hours of labor plus parts, probably closer to US$2.5K at retail price.
 
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