- Dec 8, 2007
That's all conjecture from you, yet you are suggesting to ignore any counterexamples that show Tesla values FSD at more that $0 in trade in.For the sake of clarity lets table the TMC threads and focus specifically on the tweet as that was what led to my response. The various TMC threads on the issue just set the stage in my brain before I read the tweet. Like one was the gas, and the other was the match.
This is the tweet from the customer "I paid FSD for my Model 3 in November. I now want to upgrade to model Y and your team tells me you don't value FSD in your trade-in offer because you can do the software upgrade for free. Want me to pay again full price for FSD again? That's not fair, change that!"
So he's claiming the team told him they don't value FSD in a trade-in offer because they can do the software upgrade for free.
Elon didn't reject the claim
Tesla didn't reject the claim despite knowing exactly who the customer was, and the role he plays in the tech investment world
We know tesla can do the software upgrade for free
We know FSD was on a lot of used vehicles being sold by Tesla
So now we have to ask ourselves is this true?
The evidence points to it being true.
Now does that mean its conclusively true? No, but tesla doesn't operate with much transparency so how would we ever really know for certain? Sometimes when companies operate without much transparency the best reaction is to play hardball. That way they're forced to reveal what the hell is actually going on.
To have such a vertically integrated company having so much control over a product their sell for the entire life of that product sets a dangerous precedence whether its tesla or some tractor company.
Sure I agree with you that ideally one needs more evidence to say a strong statement, but at the same FSD owners have gotten screwed over. So I think we need to push back.
I'm tired of seeing owners make excuses for Tesla.
Tesla is not our friend.
We can only agree to disagree at this point, but if I see it repeated elsewhere I will still call it out, as I posted a clear counterexample where they are NOT valuing FSD at $0 at trade in (heck even in that thread the OP was not claiming $0 value, only $1000 vs KBB).
Nothing to do with Tesla being a friend or enemy, only being accurate.