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Rivan truck looks interesting but w/o a charger network that’s a huge negative. Maybe Tesla will buy Rivian via stock swap... has anyone seen a rivian in the wild?
There is a charging network that Rivian can use.
It's the Electrify America network which is expanding rapidly.
Hmm... so right now I pay about 7.00 to supercharge my model 3...
I think I’m reading it right but maybe I’m not.. electrify america says they charge you a dollar plus 99 cent a minute.
When I use a supercharge I’m usually on it for about 30 minutes...
So that would be about 32 bucks each time I supercharge? YIKES!
I got to be doing the math wrong... that’s four times the cost of the supercharger.
Hmm... so right now I pay about 7.00 to supercharge my model 3...
I think I’m reading it right but maybe I’m not.. electrify america says they charge you a dollar plus 99 cent a minute.
When I use a supercharge I’m usually on it for about 30 minutes...
So that would be about 31 bucks each time I supercharge? YIKES! That essentially destroys the cost savings over gas...
I got to be doing the math wrong... that’s four times the cost of the supercharger.
Where are you that 30 minutes of supercharging costs only $7? The only way I can do that is if I'm at the <60kW rate, which is only above 70% charge or so. Genuinely curious as to where supercharging is so cheap. My bills are often $15-30, urban Superchargers being the most expensive.
With Electrify America in the same <60kW scenario, they're charging $0.25/minute (in Washington) which doesn't seem too much more expensive.
I got 30kw for .23 cent a kw. Sr+
Urban chargers doubling their rate @ 60kW is an absolute joke and I can't believe they do it. I honestly think they should just have it at single tier no matter what charge rate.Ok, per kWh rates, nice. $7 @ $0.23 indeed means about 30kWh given, so an average of 60kW charge rate. So you spend some time above 60kW and some time below. Though I see on their site that it's apparently $0.28/kWh now, so that should be $8.40 now.
And comparing to Electrify America, let's say that means 8 minutes in the 76-125kW tier ($0.69/min or $5.52 giving at least 10kWh) and 22 minutes in the 1-75kW tier ($0.25/min or $5.50), so a total of $11.02. More than $8.40, but definitely better compared to some other DC fast charge options out there.
For comparison, per-minute Supercharger rates assuming the same scenario might look like this: 10 minutes in the >60kW tier ($0.26/min, or $2.60) and 20 minutes in the <60kW tier ($0.13.min, another $2.60). A total of $5.60. Maybe my time estimates at the tiers are a bit off.
For yet another comparison, Canadian supercharging as above works out to CAD$8.80 or USD$6.62. From experience like I mentioned though, I'm usually paying anywhere from $15-30 when I Supercharge, the more expensive end being gouged by the 72kW rate of Urban Superchargers being just above the 60kW tier change, so I'm being charged for the high tier for most of the charge. One of my gripes with their per-minute model.
Off-topic super rough analysis finished, thanks and apologies!