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The Panamera has excellent resale value:I can tell you experience:
Dealer will skim as much money as they can off the deal.
He'll have to pay for maintanence to keep engine running - at each time dealers will skim more money from him for unnecessary maintenance jacked up since "he's a guy who bought a Panamera, so let's get more of his money!"
He'll step on the gas and hear a roar and then watch as the Tesla model S next to him makes him look like he is standing still.
He'll have to pay through the nose and fill up every week of stinky gas.
The stinky gas smell will invade his garage.
The tech in the car will be 4 years behind... and never ever update.
The GPS map will be 4 years behind... and the dealer will charge him $350 to update it.
He will search for the correct knob to do the thing he wants to do and never find it.
He will curse the UI of the interface of the 4 year old tech.
He will reach for the app to heat the car on a cold day and realize that there is no app, and if he did turn on the car to heat things, he would kill whoever is in the garage at the time.
He'll watch the re-sale value take a steep dive as everyone who would buy a Panamera, buys a Model S instead.
He will wonder why there is a gas engine in the frunk.
So how will you be charging your P100d if you do not have a garage or home charger?We considered the Porsche, Panamera, Cayenne, and the soon to be out Taycan, too before buying the Model S P100D. Also, ICE Mercedes, Audi, Bentley etc
The main reason we decided on the Model S is that we wanted an EV and Tesla’s supercharger network. The Taycan isn’t out and there is no charging network like Tesla. Yes, they promise Superchargers like Tesla but that is just a concept for now. Porsche’s are great looking cars with seemly an infinite number of choices for customization and options but they use gas and charging is an issue for us because we do not have a garage or a home charger.
Also, after test driving available cars - it really is no contest. The P100D is a blast to drive. The Panamera and Cayenne, Mercedes S class, Bentley, etc doesn’t compare. They drive like any other car, IMO. I know many people love the sound of a roaring engine, I love the quiet, complete silence coupled with rocket throttle: super cool.
So how will you be charging your P100d if you do not have a garage or home charger?
The Panamera has excellent resale value:
15 Cars That Hold Their Resale Value - Page 8 of 15 - Carophile
And I think the maintenance is also comparable:
Porsche Repair and Maintenance Costs: Learn How Much You Should Expect to Pay -
Although the interior quality blows the Model S away IMHO.
Maintenance of ICE is far far higher than dealing with simple electric motor. .
A bit off topic, but I hope you keep in touch with TMC & share your experience with the Panamera.
To be clear, we're actually keeping the P85D+ as well (for now). The resale market on P85Ds is pretty tragic and since we have unlimited supercharging for the life of the car we're going to use it to run errands around town, park at the airport, etc. We're going to drop the PG&E TOU plan that actually was not such a great deal in the summer months and just use superchargers exclusively.
So I'll have ample opportunities to compare the Panamera to the Tesla over the coming few years and if anyone at TMC is interested in our take, I'd be happy to share it.
As for the post that predicts I'll be offended by gas stations and the smell of gas, I like the smell of gas and there are far worse things to have to deal with in life than a 5 minute stop at a gas station...
Would definitely be interested in your thoughts as you live with both.
We tried to have both gas and electric and couldn't handle it. Just going to the gas was such a downer after electric that no one wanted to drive the gas.
So you are heading into the the ultimate test, both are in your driveway, which do you start to gravitate towards?
Though a P85D is a little old a this point (imagine that), but still probably holds its own pretty well. And new car smell is very powerful. You really need both a new Panamera and a new Tesla 100D in your driveway.
Should be interesting...
We're in a bit of a unique situation since we split our time between the Bay Area and Montana. The Panamera will join the Subaru Outback we bought earlier this year in Montana. A typical drive there is usually at least 200 miles+ without a supercharger nearby, so a nice high speed cruiser like the Porsche will be great, while the P85D was never a good choice there. In the Bay Area, where we spend less time every month, the Tesla and my old VW Rabbit will be the go-to vehicles.
The Tesla is a great car for California. It's not so great for rural Montana.
I guess the OP will really not understand what I'm doing...we're buying a Panamera to replace our P85D+. Teslas have served us well (we've had two Model S's) but the Porsche offers more for the money. Others have said that the P85D+ has the best balance of performance among all of Tesla's offerings and I have been more than satisfied with the performance of our car. However, the design is dated, we prefer having buttons and other manual controls and the limitations of EVs still bother us. PLUS, the HOV privilege ends early next year and that was a big reason why we bought the Tesla.
Yeah, the Porsche doesn't have the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times of the P/D Teslas, but I don't race my car and the Porsche's acceleration is more than adequate.
And I actually prefer the overall experience of an ICE car.
To each his own, of course, and I still admire Teslas, they just don't fit my needs and desires.