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2024.14.6 problem

Got the update to 2024.14.6 yesterday before first drive. Both yesterday and today, after about 2 hours in the sun at about 90F, all safety features, regen braking, autopilot, and hold at stop were disabled with continuous warnings on the screen. It said it "may" be restored for the next drive. Moving to park and doing a soft reboot had no effect. After several hours of cooler temps yesterday it came back. After being in the grocery store for 45 min (still hot) today it came back. The car drove without trouble, although the coasting felt very strange vs normal.

I just moved the autopilot setting back from FSD (monitored) to lane keeping (the middle setting) to see if that affects it.

If this happens again I will report it here and tell Tesla about it (request service?) in the app.

Help a potential new MYLR understand [why I cant get promo apr applied to existing order]

Put Y on order a week ago with promise from SA delivery would occur within a few days. Advised by SA they couldn’t deliver. Given new date of 14th. Modified vacation for 14th pickup. 0.9% financing promotion surfaced. Asked to apply new financing offer as I qualified. Told I’d have to cancel. Unknown if $250 can be recovered. Unknown if trade in value will remain the same. Unknown delivery date. Why not simply apply new financing to order that’s ready and waiting? Seems nonsensical. Financing 16k for 4 years with a 841 CS. Am I missing something? Hell… I probably could have been talked into an upgrade or two… maybe a MYP…
Nope. Back of the line. You’ll known something when we do. Pickup location is Jacksonville FL.

Abrupt Phantom Breaking at high speed - scary

I recently purchased a 2022 Model 3 Performance that had about 10,000 miles on it and had been owned by two previous owners. I had been enjoying the car until the other night, when I experienced a braking incident while driving at 80 mph on the highway using FSD (latest update).

Scene:
- Nighttime on a dark highway
- I don't remember seeing an overpass

I was using FSD, relaxing and watching the road, when suddenly the car slammed on the brakes. The speed dropped to 40 mph before I disengaged the FSD and sped back up. My passengers were horrified, and if there had been a car behind us, we would have been in serious trouble.

Why did this happen, and how can I prevent this in the future?
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This is MY idea, you can't have it!

So after neglecting my tire rotation (to the point of having to buy new tires a season early), I have a neato-peato idea. Tesla, name it after me, please. And a thank-you from Elon would be great, too.

Why can't Tesla add a button/app on the odometer screen of every Tesla that allows you to trigger a pop-up message every so many miles (mileage and text message of your choosing). This way I could setup a reminder every 5,000 miles (for example) to say "Rotate tires". Or to setup another reminder, say annually or every 10,000 miles for "get an alignment". I simply don't remember to write down the mileage when I rotate my tires, so a reminder app based on time or mileage would be VERY helpful. Another enhancement: trigger a message at a particular mileage point, something like when you reach 100,000 miles, take in for service.

For even more sophistication, you could setup a small history grid that shows, for example, the miles and date you bought new tires, performed some sort of maintenance, etc. A Tesla can even detect when you've rotated/swapped your tires by the movement of the TMPS sensors. The historical list is less likely to get implemented, it's just an extension of my first idea.

-WH
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[UK] Does FSD have any second-hand value?

For those who sold their Tesla privately:-

If you paid for FSD or EAP when you bought the car, do you think you got any of that money back when you sold it? I'm actually scouting around for a used Model 3 and would quite like EAP, but would probably pay a smidgen more for FSD at this point on the assumption that we might get involved in the beta in the next few years.

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New MY order with cracked windscreen

Hello, I’ve ordered my new MY Tesla, just awaiting the delivery date.

However Tesla have said that my MY has a cracked screen incurred during shipping, which they are replacing now.

Question is, should I continue and accept this new Tesla, with windscreen getting fixed OR get a perfect one with no issues instead from the factory?

Thanks guys

carbon fiber rear spoiler deterioration

The attached pic is my CFS which I bought and fitted 2 years back. Whilst I would be happy to pay to replace this with a ‘good’ one I can’t see that I have anything to lose by having a go at fixing this (a short term remedy but easier).

I found this (vey helpful) post on the Tesla forum
Anyone repair/repaint faded clearcoat on the carbon fiber rear spoiler?.

In that post they say:
1. Apply a high-quality automotive primer
2. Select a clearcoat paint specifically designed for automotive applications. Look for a clearcoat that is UV-resistant

Can you name for those products (a name I can search for any buy)?

Has anyone her (UK) had any (repair / replace) experiences they can share that I can learn from ?

(Before you ask . . . . the answer is NO this is not an OEM product. I bought in on Aliexpress (£100) and at the time argued with myself that all these things (including the car) are made in China so cut out the middle-man. And I have read numerous stories of OEM CFS’s going the same way i.e. I could shell out beacoup bucks for a new replacement OEM spoiler and see the same thing 2 year from now) (Please don’t de-rail this post with self righteous ‘should have known better and paid Tesla to do it’ posts)

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Kia EV6 GT Line AWD compared to my Tesla Model Y LR

For those interested I will post my comparison of the two EVs. I have now spent approx 2 hours driving plus quite a bit of research of the Kia EV6 recently, as I am very interested in getting another EV, so I think I have a little knowledge on the subject. Now both comparisons are AWD models from both companies with similar size batteries from memory.

So I will post what I think are the negatives of the EV6 first:

Capacity of the interior for luggage including Frunk and under the floor at the rear. No comparison here I think.

Although Kia are aggressively trying to price the EV6 to compete with the Model Y I think Tesla with their recent price drops are cheaper from what I see ATM. But the new EV5 which maybe available here soon may reverse this trend.

Access to the full Tesla Supercharger network is not applicable at this stage and what Superchargers are available, because of the 800 volt architecture, derates what is a impressive charging speed at suitable chargers that can handle the EV6's characteristics.

I think Tesla's Navigation software is probably better but having access to Apple CarPlay and Android Auto this may make this negative mute.

Having to service the car yearly maybe considered a negative.

Positives of the EV6 IMO:

7 year warranty.

Suspension is noticeable better I think. Kia sending engineers to tune the suspension to Australian road conditions shows here I think. I wish Tesla did the same.

I spoke previously here about how I consider the MY having too low a steering ratio to make a good handling car at higher speeds and especially for inexperienced drivers. The EV6 is far better in this regard IMO.

The radar based adaptive cruise control of the EV6 is far better than what Tesla are using on my Model Y IMHO. It truly was a pleasure to use.

Self steering or what may be considered lane centering. Ok Tesla around sharper corners is better ie holds its line more consistent. But, and this is a big BUT IMO, there are other attributes that make Kia's system far better to use I think. These are:

A capacitive steering wheel it seems ie just lightly grip the wheel when warnings are transmitted to driver instead of adding a certain amount of torque for the Tesla to show you are still attentive.

The ability to correct the line of the Kia without disconnecting self steering ie say you see a pothole ahead that you will hit staying in the centre of the lane. Just steer around it then head back towards the centre and self steering reapplies. It was even possible to leave the system on all the time and have it apply itself any time you wanted ie around town etc. Also taking a racing line around sharper corners was especially nice to achieve I think or moving over pre-emptively to overtake large trucks then back to self steering in the centre of the lane. A great and confidence inspiring system I think.

I have other commitments now but will try to finish this later.

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How will s and x models that have no cabin camera handle 12.4 getting rid of steering wheel nag?

With 12.4 on the way and Elon stating it will get rid of steering wheel nag where do you think this will leave S and X owners with FSD that have no in cabin cameras?

Do you think the nag will still apply to s and x owners that don't have the in cabin cameras?

Maybe reduce the nag but not get rid of it for these subset of users?

Please give your input.

It will be interesting.

Bouncing clunk type noise after Koni Special Active Install

Back at the end of March, I installed Koni Special Active shocks on my otherwise stock 2020 Model Y Dual motor.
I have this clunk, bouncing, bump sound over small bumps coming from the front end. I can hear it at low speeds, but this could be because of other noises at higher speeds (not sure).

I have checked all the torques related to the install and they are all tight. I have had a shop look at it as well and come to the same conclusion.

I have recently replaced all my front lower control arms and they look good.

The upper control arms do not have play or make any noise either. For good measure, I replaced both the nut and the bolt on the connection to the upper control arm ball joint.

I removed the end links completely from the car and the sound remains. They also do not have any play.

The upper strut bolt was installed holding the rod in place with a 5mm Allen key on a ratchet.

Has anyone else come across this before and possibly have a solution?

I have a few videos of the sound, but am not sure how to upload it.

One video is from the steering wheel, and two more from each of the front wheel wells. I can hear the bumping sound in both wheel wells.

Using AI to improve wipe malfunction

I'm writing to propose an enhancement to the AI algorithms that control the automatic windshield wipers in Tesla vehicles. I've noticed, along with others in the community, that the wipers sometimes activate unexpectedly in conditions such as bright sunlight, which seems to be due to the cameras mistaking reflections or other visual artifacts for raindrops.

Proposal:I suggest an improvement in the AI's image recognition capabilities to more accurately distinguish between actual raindrops and other misleading visual signals. By refining the neural networks to understand context more effectively—considering variables such as weather conditions, light levels, and time of day—Tesla can enhance the functionality and reliability of the auto-wiper system.

Potential Benefits:

  1. Enhanced Driver Comfort and Convenience: By reducing false positives in wiper activation, drivers would experience fewer distractions and more consistent behavior from their vehicle’s automation.
  2. Safety Improvements: More accurate wiper activation directly correlates with better visibility and safer driving conditions.
  3. Customer Satisfaction: Fine-tuning this feature would underscore Tesla's commitment to leveraging cutting-edge technology to continuously improve the driving experience.

Updated to v12, 2024.14.6 with FSD and it's awesome!

Very early this morning I got the notification that the update was available for my car. I took it for a little drive and love all the changes. Has anyone else gotten the update? I can't get the trunk to auto open when I'm behind it and I don't have the Summon option. 😢 I'm still playing with it though. I'd love to hear other's thoughts on the upgrades and changes!

Tesla power wall in Tesla app. What am I really seeing?

I recently had a Tesla Power Wall installed at my other house in Auburn, CA. 4 KW of solar.

What I cannot make sense of is when the solar is putting out more power, the app shows the house is using more power. Does this all the time. It can show the house as drawing 0.4 KW (400 watts ) as the sun comes up, solar supplying it all. Nothing shown from any other path coming or going (neither battery nor grid power). As the sun comes up a bit more, the solar panels put out 2 KW. Nothing is changing in the house (AFAIK) and then the house draws more than 1.5KW and then only 500 watts go back to the grid.

So does my house draw 400 or 1,500 watts when no real loads (not even a light on, compressors in refrigerator not running, etc).

What am I not seeing in the Tesla app? IOW, why would the house draw more just because the solar is putting out more power?

-Don- Reno, NV

Advanced Autopilot gone?

Hi all - new here. Just purchase a MYLR and at the time it included Advanced autopilot. I had a seat repair that took *forever* and just got the car back to see that it is gone but I can upgrade to FSD for 2k. I saw an article from Tesla stating this but it didn’t provide too much information. I’m hoping someone here might have a little insight as it wasn’t really explained to me at delivery. Thanks in advance!

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Did I Just Get Unlucky?

My coworker recently got a model Y - everything was great. Based on that experience, I convinced my husband to get one - and everything was great. So *I* got one - I love the car but am running into issues. Already had one service appointment, and another is scheduled 2 weeks out (which is another issue all together).

Original issues:

  • Chirping noise coming from windshield - fixed at last service appointment
  • Vibrating driver's side mirror - fixed at last service appointment
  • Something sliding around in the driver's side dash HVAC vent - it's been happening less and less since I got the car, but they couldn't replicate it, so they didn't fix it - still happening
  • Water ingress into the trunk seal - they said it was fixed, but it's still happening
  • My Tesla driver's profile keeps resetting - they had me reset it from the app and I thought that fixed it, but the issue has come back
Current issues:

  • The water ingress into the trunk - do i need to be worried about this doing damage?
  • The something sliding around in the driver's side dash HVAC vent
  • A constant loud squeaking coming from the driver's side door that goes away if you press on the inside front of the door (maybe from disassembling the door to replace the mirror?)
  • A loud whistle above 50 mph (and the black triangle the new mirror is mounted on is loose - not sure if related)
I LOVE the car, but these are making me second guess my choice. Did I just get unlucky/should I trust they'll eventually get all the issues fixed?

No Cabin Air Filter

Although my car is nearly 4 years old, it has less than 30K miles. Replacing the cabin air filter today, and found that there never was one installed by the Tesla factory when new. I am pissed. They should give me back the $34 I spent on a new one. Hope this omission for the last 4 years won't harm my car much in the future, as I plan on keeping it. I guess the original HEPA filter if it was installed at the factory would help minimize damage, and will find out tomorrow if it is also missing.

Powerwalls ignoring settings

I have 2 of Powerwall 2 (I believe plus version) installed with an existing small solar array (3.3 kW). For the most part the Powerwalls were installed to have peace of mind if there was an outage. It seems that whatever settings are being completely ignored and if anything, the batteries are doing the opposite. I have it set to only use the upper 20% of the battery and the rest is set for reserve (should only use 80-100% range). I have it set to self-powered and not charging from the grid. My vehicle charging is set to only use battery to charge if it's above 80% but that should only matter during grid outage.

If the battery is at a higher state of charge say 90% and there is significant load from the house (say dryer going and wall connector going for a total of 17 kW) the system will work as normal pulling 10 kW from the battery and the rest from solar or grid. But after a few minutes it switches to do the reverse: the battery wants to charge from the grid at 11.5 kW even though the battery is above 80%. The expected behavior should be to use all the batteries can provide (10 kW) and grid/solar should provide any remaining kW until the batteries are depleted to the reserve percentage, then grid/solar should take over the load completely.

What is likely to be the issue?

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FSD transfer question. 2018 Model 3 with FSD totaled.

I purchased FSD for my 2018 Model 3 a few years ago, and, of course, just when it was getting pretty good...about two weeks ago, some lady crashed into my car. Her insurance company accepted full liability but today we got the estimate for repair and it's over $30K, so the insurance company is going to total the car.

I know that FSD is generally pretty devalued when it comes to resale, so it kind of sucks that I will not get to use this thing that I paid $7K for back in the day and will probably not get back anything near what I paid for it.

I was thinking about begging for an FSD transfer to a new purchase. I see some older threads about this but they predate FSD transfer offers altogether. Just curious if anyone has any more recent experience along these lines? Am I pretty much out of luck?

Would be a very strong argument in favor of the FSD subscription model. I don't know why you would ever buy it if you can lose it all in a crash at any moment.

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Dead 2013 Tesla S

My 2013 Model S 85, purchase used about 3 years ago at 45,000 miles, now with 102,755, with no issues over the nearly 60,000 miles I have put on it, suddenly will not turn on. The 12V was replaced in summer of 2021 by Tesla mobile (car gave me the appropriate warning that it needed to be replaced soon), and is now the only thing that seems to work correctly - neither the center console nor the instrument cluster turns on when the door opens, but the lights all function, turn signals work, and when I press the brake, i hear a familiar humming that I always assume is the main computer booting up, but no displays come on, and I cannot shift out of park. I had used the car like normal the day before, parked in my driveway and plugged in to charge as usual. I received the normal alert at night telling me charging was complete, but when tried to use the car the next day, it was unresponsive.
Tesla service has been no help - either mobile service does not exist anymore, or because my HV battery is now out of warranty, mobile service is not an option for me. I was told to speak to the service center (by a reputable non-Tesla EV repair shop), as they could remotely review the logs and determine if the battery pack had an issue or not leading up to this, but after multiple attempts to reach someone, I was finally told that they COULD do that, but would not do it until I figured out how to get the vehicle to them.
Are there any DIY options for troubleshooting before I have it hauled there, that might give me an idea of what I am dealing with? if it is the main CPU, for instance, I believe that could be replaced by my non-Tesla EV shop that will procure and install used parts for much less, but they are 50 miles away, so its not worth hauling there if it is something more serious and I have a truly dead vehicle on my hands. If it is the HV battery, and I am looking at full replacement out of warranty, I have to consider other options, and do not want to have paid to haul it 50 miles away, only to have to haul it somewhere else again.

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