The blurb about Autopilot is version 2. I posted version 1, which was up beyond December 2016. Point is, lots of cars were sold with the version 1 wording in the configurator. You get nothing.Awesome, how much do I get!!
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The blurb about Autopilot is version 2. I posted version 1, which was up beyond December 2016. Point is, lots of cars were sold with the version 1 wording in the configurator. You get nothing.Awesome, how much do I get!!
"Dangerous and buggy"? I must have gotten the safe and bug-free version. It's been working well for me. My only complaint its the speed restriction.
"Dangerous and buggy"? I must have gotten the safe and bug-free version. It's been working well for me. My only complaint its the speed restriction.
The anology is way off. "Your house is find and probably the best theoney can buy , but all the smart home features like security and lightly are buggy. Sometimes the door could close on you and crush you"Just imagine you just bought a $140,000 condo only to find the indoor plumbing and electric service was still in beta and you'd need to use the porta-potty down the street for the next six months. If only you had read the builder's tweets.
This is false for anyone who ordered before January 2017. Please stop repeating it.I think Tesla made it pretty clear on their website configurator that the autopilot features would be rolled out over time.
This is false for anyone who ordered before January 2017. Please stop repeating it.
@BestRadar did u mock up that comparison yourself in photoshop or is that an unedited screenshot? I'm asking because it looks like a very useful tool. Please provide link to the program
Not sure this is an apples to apples comparison, since those are minimal expectations for any house. I believe the current cars fulfill the minimal expectations of a car, in that you can drive them from point A to point B safely. A more apt comparison would be if you bought a mansion, but the custom bowling alley you had installed in the basement wasn't working well and you had to wait some time for them to fix it. Or your heated infinity pool overlooking the ocean wasn't heating up to 78 degrees. You def paid extra for them and that would be annoying for awhile, but you probably wouldn't move out over them.Just imagine you just bought a $140,000 condo only to find the indoor plumbing and electric service was still in beta and you'd need to use the porta-potty down the street for the next six months. If only you had read the builder's tweets.
Done! Lawyer says we can make a prima facie case that 1) the abundance of communication from Tesla's site and its sales agents led us to believe it would be delivered as advertised; and 2) Tesla's actual delivery of EAP suggests that they would have to have known that December was not only not expected but near or in fact impossible.EAP "is expected to".
Key word for "forward-looking statements" that might or might not happen.
It could be argued that it takes precedence over "Standard Safety Features" wording that have had a semi-precise date due to being tied in one package.
Ask lawyer.
So what's your plan then? An individual lawsuit that will cost you signicantly more than the $5k plunked down for EAP, or trying to get people to join a class action lawsuit? I'd imagine the outcome of a lawsuit will probably just delay features further on their Teslas and the odds of winning are 50/50 at best, since the language on the site does appear ambiguous and relates to software upgrades rather than hardware. The number of people who paid for EAP in that timeframe is so minuscule in the scheme of things, I don't think any decent lawyer would touch it.Done! Lawyer says we can make a prima facie case that 1) the abundance of communication from Tesla's site and its sales agents led us to believe it would be delivered as advertised; and 2) Tesla's actual delivery of EAP suggests that they would have to have known that December was not only not expected but near or in fact impossible.
You can't "expect" the "impossible". You cannot continue to advertise as "Expected" that which you know you cannot deliver.
True! But what's the likelihood they do anything of use against the lawyers from a billion dollar company? it's just a big hassle for very little gain for all involved, including the people who actually own the cars that were affected by this "overly positive but probably not legally binding" advertising.Plenty of not so decent lawyers around
I don't know what you're going on about. Some guy asked me to ask a lawyer. So I did and reported what I was told.So what's your plan then? An individual lawsuit that will cost you signicantly more than the $5k plunked down for EAP, or trying to get people to join a class action lawsuit? I'd imagine the outcome of a lawsuit will probably just delay features further on their Teslas and the odds of winning are 50/50 at best, since the language on the site does appear ambiguous and relates to software upgrades rather than hardware. The number of people who paid for EAP in that timeframe is so minuscule in the scheme of things, I don't think any decent lawyer would touch it.
I was just highlighting there's a difference between a possible legal avenue and the likelihood that anyone will take it when there aren't clear laws or legal precedent related to software updates not being delivered on time and the true damages for something that was delivered in February/March vs. end of December. I'm open to disagreements, however!I don't know what you're going on about. Some guy asked me to ask a lawyer. So I did and reported what I was told.
And my guess is that the small amount of people actually adds up to at least $50 million.
Wow, talk about putting your neck on the chopping block. Realize there's a "Disagree"-button in the bottom right corner of your post? And that you're arguing with a dude whose nick is disagree?I'm open to disagreements, however!